Marciano vs Tua at cruiserweight

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Tua at his best loses to Marciano anyway.

    Tua at cruiser is just smaller.
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I just can't imagine seeing the real Rocky in real life training for a fight against Tua and losing.

    You need legendary class skills like Ali's foot speed, Foremans power, or Dempseys ferocity.

    Tua's power gets slowly overpowered by Rockys hunger and toughness.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Charlie Goldman turned away Marciano the first time he was offered because Marciano was so poor in all aspects but punching power.

    You really don't see that version of Rocky losing to a 90 fight veteran amateur, bronze medalist, pro prospect who got snatched up quickly by the likely the most powerful trainer at the time?
     
  4. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hell I'd be 49-0 if I fought grand ma, and grand pa lol.
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I was talking about in general. Forgot this was the cruiser thread.

    I would still pick Rocky.
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Of course you do.
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Despite Marcianos shortcomings, he was still taken in by one of the best trainers in the business.

    What was that line in Pursuit of Happiness?
    "What would you say if I told you that I gave the job to someone who didn't have a shirt?"
    "..He must've had some really nice pants."

    Marciano's strengths must've really outshone his weaknesses. He had to have had some serious punching power, and Tua didn't look like he could take the kinds of punches at that point in his career.
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Hey, I'm a rational guy
     
  9. Jear

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    Coley Wallace
     
  10. mcvey

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    What makes you say the underlined?
     
  11. reznick

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    The Savon fight mostly
     
  12. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This was a pro fight?
     
  13. foreman&dempsey

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    tua at his best destroys marciano inside 2 rounds... 2 different classes of weight here
     
  14. janitor

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    You have an unlikely ally here.

    I am picking Tua, but not under the circumstances that you wanted.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I don't want any circumstances to come between our mutual affection.