What if Robinson fought maxim on a cooler day?

Exactly.
A simple point but some people have a real hard time getting their head round it.

 

I would submit that the gulf in class between the two men suggests you could definitely conclude the fight would have gone the same route, with SRR winning the rounds he couldn't complete due to the heat exhaustion.

Never under estimate just how good Robinson was.

 

Nothing that you've wrote indicates that Maxim would have lost. Not one thing.
It's all sheer fantasy and pure contradiction.
On the one hand, we have to believe the circumstances of the fight were VERY UNUSUAL and abnormal.
On the other hand, what that happened involving the two fighters through the first 12 rounds or so is exhibited as the BLUEPRINT for ANY NORMAL ENCOUNTER over 15 rounds between the same two fighters.

 

Walcott, Bivins, Patterson

 

No **** he was born in the USA. My point is don't blacks handle the heat and humidity better than white people?

 

So you have a 6' 1" Maxim losing 9 lbs, lets imagine the 5' 11" Robinson lost 9lbs also. It stands to reason the much lighter Robinson would have bigger problems with dehydration than Joey Maxim.

Now consider that the former Lightweight Ruby Goldstein ( aged 45 ) only lasted 10 rounds and had to be replaced by Ray Miller as the ref, and you can see that the heat obviously affected the lighter men to a higher degree. By all accounts it wasn't a dirty fight with Goldstein constantly having to break the fighters, yet even at the pace the fight was fought he couldn't handle the heat.

It is pure nonsense to claim the heat affected Maxim as badly as it did both Robinson and Goldstein.

 

It's pure guesswork to say the heat affected Robinson more than Maxim.

How do you know Robinson wouldn't have suffered the same fighting a man the same size?

 

Has nothing to do with weight. It is how efficient their bodies were at cooling down properly. Robinson's body temperature was obviously higher than Maxim's due to the higher workrate.

 

If you're right ,and you are not , you would have to believe that the heat favoured Robinson!
Show me one part of my post that is a contradiction.
I have shown that Robinson won 9 of the first 13 rds on 2 cards and 10 on the other.
Explain to me how Maxim reverses this even if they fight in a cold store?
Robinson did all the moving and he was conceding 15+ lbs to Maxim ,who does that favour in the 103 heat the smaller,more mobile man or the bigger, less mobile man?

So ,given that they fight again under normal conditions ,who is more likely to improve on his initial performance?
Maxim doesn't stop Robinson so he has to out point him,since he was outclassed and made to look like a plodding journeyman for the first 10 rounds of their actual fight explain how he accomplishes this in a rematch?

If you can't, it is you dealing in fantasy here!

 

The idea that Maxim let himself get his ears boxed off round after round, fell terminally behind on the cards, all in hopes of some hail mary stoppage is absolutely ludicrous. He got lucky and thats that. I give him credit for beating a guy at 175 who one year earlier moved up from 147 to 160 and had never fought a true lhw (who spent most of his career at hw). But lets not pretend that on a balmy 75 degree day Robinson doesnt win a wide, one sided points decision. I suspect most of the jokers picking Maxim havent even seen this fight.

 

Hear, hear!

 

For those saying the heat effected Maxim snd that he would have somehow miraculously cranked up his aggression can anyone actually point to Maxim fighting like that? Who the eff are you kidding? The guy was a light punching, jabbing, spoiler. He always fought that way. He wasnt some aggressive, volume punching dynamo. Trying to use the Patterson fight as a comparison is a joke because Patterson was robbed in that fight to begin with and was only fighting in his 14th fight.

 

Why would they?

 

I think you encapsulated it rather well thank you.:good