You want to destabilize his story to your advantage when you talk **** about him? You made an interesting discovery for all the wrong reasons. But the important part is, you made an interesting discovery! I never cared too much for the negativity around the personal lives of boxers when it had nothing to do with their careers. Every family has their issues, and I think when one gets too invested in family affairs of boxers, they start missing the plot. Although, I can see how one would appreciate the finding for its historical accuracy Amazingly, something good came out of your irrational escapade to knock Jack down a peg or two!
OMG a member of good standing of the GOL's, many alts chime's in. Many alts the Papke and Ketchell, sucker punching each other, post's at least involve a fight, what your fellow GOL, doesnt understand is, you are discussing what might've happened in a fight, shamu is posting about whether Maxine Cates died on this date when this other date is the one in the bio's and blah, blah, blah. Please many alts tell how you were put on "blast"? BTW, is "Blast", a radio program? Tell us again about the Dempsey contract and the plot to kill the Pittsburgh fight by a stalling Kearns, or the Shelby debacle. The GOL's motto is, "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. What's that saying, birds of a feather stick together
The Loughran article about Tommy and Dempsey .. http://www.si.com/vault/1979/04/23/...rget-a-fight-but-not-his-workout-with-dempsey "Now, Jack and I were pretty good friends. I had lived at his hotel in Los Angeles for three months the year before, and I got to know him then. I used to study him a lot, watch his moves. I knew he had this Indian blood. Boy, I'm telling you, if there ever was a vicious person, he was it. He had these stalking methods, typical of an Indian. Jack would walk on the ***** of his feet, not back on his heels like most. "Yet he had the most attractive personality. You couldn't help but like him. He had a gracious smile, a good handshake, would always have something nice to say. But at the same time I knew he had this other streak in him, and boy, I'm telling you, if he had a chance, that would be it. He was the only man I was ever afraid of, and I think he knew it. I'm not even 100% sure what he meant but the gist seems clear .. behind the manicured public image something lurked for sure .. kind of like his supposedly shrugged off response to Brennan getting gunned down at his bar by bootleggers .. "Guess Bill bought the wrong beer." ..
HEG, great post, that was a different time, a time of bootleggers, and gangsters, so Dempsey might have been right.
So, to get to a deeper point lurking below this story and one very protean to the integrity of Dempsey's record, is anyone so gullible as to believe that Kearns and Spellman showed up at the Continental Hotel to meet Maxine and did not pay her off? Are people that gullible? And what was her trump card beyond the legendary letters? And why was Jack so enraged as to break her jaw (something he admits, so don't blame me for bearing the news.)?
Odd that Loughran would be so scared of him and yet handle him as easy as Tunney did when they sparred and admit as much yrs later.
Lol at a ****ing clueless starstruck pinhead like demp claiming anyone else is not letting the facts get in the way of a good story. How many times have you gotten your ass factually handed to you yet keep barking the same tired stories you read in ring magazine and cant let die? Who is getting his little pink panties in a twist because someone had the temerity to suggest that Dempseys numerous factually incorrect bios had yet another fact incorrect. Boohoo. Lol. Never seen so much butthurt fanboy defensive posturing in my life. *****s have nothing on Jack Dempseys delusional fans.
Kearns and Spellman (who has 6 movies starring Dempsey in production) meet Maxine in the Continental Hotel and the next day she repudiates her charges against him. Persuasive argumentation? Funny that not a few weeks later the Grand Jury was looking into tampering of a witness. (Salt Lake Telegram 2/20/20).
Many alts you who claim so much and know so little about what you write. Sparring is sparring, means nothing. Just like the other smoking gun, Greb beating up Dempsey means nothing but you are just looking to hang your hat on some pointless point, claims that that proves something, it proves NOTHING. As a supposedly knowledgeable poster, you don't know much about boxing. You still haven't explained the Dempsey contract or the Kearns stalling which you claimed as facts which turned out just to be your own unique spin.
You know what though? Maybe you're not supposed to know every family detail about Jack Dempsey. Maybe, they white washed family issues because of it's irrelevance to anything. It's what families do all the time. It's just that most people don't hate you enough to rummage through your families records. But if someone had an agenda, they could. It could happen to anyone. You keep making fun of Dempsey fans, but you're projecting. You got into this sport because of the fact that you were a Jack Dempsey fan, did you not? Don't be a vehement hypocrite.
Hey we got a twofer, another gay reference. Why are you so obsessed with gay references? Makes one wonder hmmmm! Until next time:hi:
I am lost here. What is the impact negative or positive on Dempsey's legacy here. What is be alluded to that would besmirch him?
That's the point of this thread to besmirch Dempsey by shamu and many alts who jumps in every now and then with his gay remarks. All those writers who wrote Dempsey articles and bio's, stated she died in a fire. So she died much later, so what, who really cares? The few, that's who, the one's looking to dump on Dempsey. This is how desperate they are to them this is a significant discovery, in the WGAS category. Tom Hauser, who has written many books, and articles, stated she died in a fire. If you were to tell him of this great discovery, he would say, "ok, good to know, thank you." See these gossiping old ladies, are looking to gossip that's all. The minutes of the Royal Dunderhead of Gossiping Old Ladies, meeting, revealed a conversation discussing Dempsey, marrying a prostitute. "what Dempsey married a lady of the evening? You mean a prostitute? Oh no Dempsey is dragging the championship down. "ew a dirty wh-ore, omg.......!" Shamu's further historical investigations will reveal even more unsubstantiated rumors, twisted facts, and wgas spins to further expose Dempsey in a dark light. Shamu's next investigation will look into what Dempsey ate for breakfast and that he wasted food, while there were millions starving, that's what kind of man Dempsey was, he's living high on the hog on the backs of poor people who pay to see him fight all these bums when he should be fighting Greb and Wills." Stay tuned to more b-ull sh-it LOL