With proper respect, let us discuss, was Ali the true GOAT?

No. Not even best HW ever.

 

I think he was the Greatest. HE had the whole package.:deal

 

Before you all get too carried away with Ali outside the ring...what did he accomplish ?

He was a Draft dodger !

An excellent boxer.

He was very disrespectful ...he ruined Joe Lewis.
He continually humiliated the man knowing he was damaging him.
When Joe approached Ali in hopes to reconcile , Ali was not a big enough man and continued on.

Before we canonize him...

All I have to say is that I hope you are resting in peace !!!


I was trying to be respectful !

 

Best, probably not. Greatest, without a doubt. Which other boxer, in fact which other sportsman, could ever claim to be the most famous and best-loved man on earth?

 

He was the greatest. He had personality and charisma.

 

At heavyweight yes. He has the best record:

Foreman
Frazier
Liston
Patterson
Norton
Quarry
Shavers
Lyle
Williams
Mathis
Spinks
Young
Foster
Chavulo
Ellis
Terrel
Cooper
Moore

That kind of record will never be seen again.
PPP it is SSR.

 

Who is Joe Lewis?

Joe Frazier?
Joe Louis?
Lennox Lewis?

Probably Joe Frazier, right?

 

You forgot Oscar Bonevena:good

 

Yeah he's talking about Frazier.

 

What's wrong with dodging the draft under the circumstances? He wasn't white, and as he stated, didn't no Vietcong call him ******. What had this country done for him? Won a gold for this country, and comes home to racism from white people. Seems like they need to fight their own wars if you ask me.

 

he wasn't meant to be seen to respect him, he was his rival and opponent.

 

And as far as being the greatest. He definitely has the greatest comparative resume for heavyweights. I'd probably still rate Ray Robinson over Ali though.

 

Seriously when has charisma, personality and work outside the ring had any bearing on a GOAT list. This is Boxing for Christ sakes all that stuff is completely irrelevant. Ali is probably the greatest HW of all time and s****es top 10 P4P GOAT.

 

I grew up in karate ...meant Frazier !
Thanks!

 

It went well beyond ...even after their careers!