Who in the last ten years was stronger than Liston?

People have changed, the average man of today is taller and wider. There are more giants today than 50 years ago. There were elss at world lever standards in boxing because there were less so there was less likely going to be an elite among them. Please don't deny that.

 

Spoken like a true newbie.

 

Dunno about anyone else, but I'd rather fight Chris Byrd than Sonny Liston.

 

cardio demands in today lifestyle are less, allowing bigger people to flourish whereas they would be at a cardio weakness in the past.

please don't deny this.
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So the past was basically a bunch of unathletic Ethiopian marathon runners. And if cardio is The issue, then why do other sports like football and basketball also see an increase in average height and weight?

 

if you think so, up to you to make assumptions that no one else has.

its not "if" at all. It "is". Giant men suffer on the cardio front due to their size.

there is no arguing with the laws of physics, don't be the first fool to try flying from an upper storey window this century cos u wont fly.

 

I think Lewis, Foreman, Waldo, Vit and some lesser fighters would give him all he wanted in the waltzing department.

 

foreman maybe, the others not no way.

 

Size can negate a stamina advantage. You don't see flyweights beating middleweights.



No stamina in the world can save you when Wlad or Lewis are pulling you down. And bigger guys tend to punch harder on average which negates a stamina disadvantage, they also tend to take a punch better on average which negates a stamina disadvantage to a degree etc.



It's also nice to see that you ignore that cardio intensive sports like football and basketball have also increased in size.

 

You don't think Wlad or Lewis would outmuscle the much smaller Liston?

 

no way? are you telling me that the 240 pounders vitali and lewis, or the 300 pounder valuev could not handle the 212 pounder liston physically?, not only cause the size or weight, they were pretty strong too.

 

People around here live in a world of fairy tales. It's one thing to say that Liston was "greater" or had more "class" than them but no rational person could confidently believe that Liston was stronger than ripped, muscular men who were much larger and heavier than him. Doesn't make sense.

 

Hard to say really its hard to measure physical strength in a boxing match.

 

No, it really doesn't.

Muscle isn't a currency that devalues over time. 1 lbs of muscle in the 60's isn't worth 4 lbs of muscle today today. If anything fighters today get more maximun strength out of their muscle mass since they tend to lift weights in more cases and probably use PEDs to a higher degree as well.