If Jeffries Had Re-matched Fitz Earlier?

Jim Jeffries took the title off Bob Fitzsimmons in June 1899.
Fitz was a month off 37 years old and had not fought for 2 years. In 1900 Fitz had 4 fights scoring 4 stoppages ,including koing the2 leading contenders Gus Ruhlin and Tom Sharkey in the space of a fortnight.
It would be another 2 years before Fitzsimmons got a rematch ,by which time he was nearly 40 years old and had been retired for 2 years.
Given that Fitz gave Jeffries a real beating for 8 rounds ,before his hands went on him when they finally did rematch and that he had been out of the ring for 2 years, my question is:
If he had gotten a rematch soon after he beat Sharkey and Ruhlin [August 1900,] would his challenge have been successful?

 

Fitzsimmons did not have a professional boxing contest from the 5th of June 1897 until the 9th of June 1899 that is 2 years and 4 days.Unless you are going by Mendoza calendar!
So my point below is absolutely correct!


"Fitz was a month off 37 years old ,and had not fought for 2 years"!


How many of Fitz's best wins were after 1902 when he fought Jeffries at the age of 39?

 

I would discount them because I have quotes from Fitz saying he hadn't fought in2 years and these are confirmed in his biography.
I know what you said,unlike you I don't have any reading problems. My point is Fitz was nearly 40 years old when he got his rematch! Still propagating the lies about O Brien ?
BTW Geoff Thorn's name appears three times in CBZ, it is wrong they met once ,and it was an exhibition.

 

They were the two top contenders for Jeffries title. Sharkey had gone a total of 45rds with Jeffries without being stopped and, in the opinion of many, was worth a draw in one encounter. Ruhlin would fight Jeffries after being destroyed by FItz.Your attempts to diminish them are palpably obvious and blatantly agenda driven.

 

How exactly does the challenger offer a title shot to the champion? No after Jeffries defeated Fitzsimmons for his title, in June 1899 he defended against Sharkey in a fight that went the distance,then no hoper John Finnegan who had been kod by Ruhlin in his last fight,then he fought Corbett ,he didn't fight Ruhlin till Jan1901 after Ruhlin had been half killed by Fitzsimmons. Fitzsimmons did earn his shot by koing both the two top contenders within two weeks of each other!

That was in August 1900..Wait his turn?

He waited 2 years before he got his turn in1902!

After koing Sharkey Fitz walked to the side of the ring where Jeffries was sitting and shouted,"you'll give me a fight now Jim ,won't you? Get up and shake hands on it" Jeffries remained seated.Fitz repeated ,"get up,Jim and shake" The fans began to urge Jeffries to do so.Jeffries stood up and shook Fitz's gloved hand,and the crowd cheered! Fitz was interviewed in his dressing room ,this is his verified statement.
"I mean to become the champion of the world again and the only man now in the way is Jim Jeffries.He whipped me once ,but I don't think he will do it again.When we met I had not fought in two years and naturally was not in the best of condition.
But I am in great form now, and really think that if we meet again I would come out on top.
In fact I held Jeffries too cheaply , but I learned a lesson and will not be caught napping next time.
If they give me enough money I guess I will be ready to fight Jeffries sometime inside the next six months"

In fact he had to wait 2years for his chance!

While Jeffries fought the man he had ko'd for the title ,recycled Jim Corbett , twice and the man he had beaten unconscious so badly,[Ruhlin], that he was dragged to his corner and a make shift bed was put up in MSG with a doctor in overnight attendance lest he relapse into a coma.

So easily had Fitz ko'd Sharkey, the man that Jeffries couldnt stop that he forsook a shower after the fight and went off to the Alhambra in Bergen Beach, where he danced and sang until 3.am.

That is a champion ducking his number one challenger for 2 years,a challenger who had pulled of the unprecedented feat,[still unequalled today] of koing both the top 2 contenders inside a two weeks period!


How do you like them apples?

 

If Fitzsimmons was not the standout contender after koing the two top contenders in August 1900 tell me who was? After
koing them both Fitz publicly asked for a rematch with Jeffries saying he would be ready to fight him inside 6 months .

Now explain why Jeffries didn't give him that chance untl 2 years later?

I know Fitzsimmons record, he had 4 fights in1900 and scored 4 ko's two of them over the two top contenders something Jeffries failed to do.

What more did he need to do to press his claims for a title shot? Not fight for 2 years , and not win a fight for 6 years like Corbett?
Or be ko'd by Gus Ruhlin in his last fight like John Finnegan? Jim Jeffries examined Fitzsimmons hand wraps in the ring it's a matter of public record,and in the reports of the fight. You haven't won a point in this one -sided debate you should throw in the towel.atsch


BTW I'm still waiting for those verified offers of $30,000 for Johnson to defend against Langford and a verified quote from Jim Jeffries saying he was prepared to defend his ttile against Jack Johnson.Its been a week now.

 

Why did Jeffries defend against Corbett whom Fitzsimmons had kod and Ruhlin whom Fitzsimmons had kod?
Why did he defend against John Finnegan who had been kod by Ruhlin in his last fight, a man whom Fitzsimmons had destroyed?
How did they deserve a title shot before Fitzsimmons?Fitzsimmons publicly asked Jeffries for a title shot from the ring after he had kod the leading contender.
Why didn't he get one for 2 years is my question?
.Fitz didn't fight in1901 because he wanted to fight the champion Jeffries and he had earned his title shot
Jeffries had other fighters he wanted to fight?
Does that mean he picks his challengers then?

The public wanted him to fight Fitz, do you think they were interested in his defending against Finnegan or his conqueror Ruhlin who had been badly ko'd by Fitz?

Here's a report on the state of Ruhlin after the Fitz fight,there were real fears he might die he spent the night at MSG and was removed the next day to convalesce at his managers home for a week.
After a ND with Hank Griffn and a set to with his sparring partner Joe Kennedy
.Jeffries defended against

Ruhlin ,whom Fitz had half killed!

Here are Jeffries other defences:
Sharkey who Fitz kod twice only to be robbed in the first one.
Finnegan a no hoper who had been kod in4 rds by Ruhlin .
Corbett whom Fitz had ko'd with one punch when Corbett was prime.
Ruhlin whom Fitz had crucified and badly beaten.
Jack Munroe another no hoper
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If as you say,[lie,] you've shown me numerous verified offers for Johnson to fight Langford it should be a simple matter for you to produce ONE now!
Gunboat Smith sparred with Johnson in 1908 not 1900 . He did
not knock him silly, in Smith's own words he punched him into the ropes.That is from a taped interview recorded in Smith's home in March 1970.
I remember you saying The Johnson vJohnson fight was cut from 20rds to 10rds to save the champions title.
I remember you further saying the French Federation withdrew recognition of Johnson as champion because of the bad fight between him and Jim Johnson. Both were untrue, as are all the other lies you constantly repeat eg
Burns broke Johnsons ribs.
Burns had jaundice.
Johnson pimped women.
Ketchel gave Johnson a black eye. [which can be seen on film]
The Johnson v Jeffries fight would have been a draw over 10rds.
Burns defended his title against a Jewish fighter.
Jeannette weighed 165lbs for his last fight against Johnson.
Jeffries said he was prepared to defend his title against Johnson
Just a few "gems" from your mendacious mouth.

You're full of sh*t ,just a phobic hater of a black man who was dead before you were born.
You have three heroes Jeffries,Wlad ,and Vitali ,all vanilla white.
You regularly knock Louis,Frazier,Ali,Johnson , all black.
:think