Did the 2015 Wladimir have a decline in speed, reflexes since the 2007-2011 version?

He looked suspect because Jennings camp appealed to the commission to stop Wlad holding and grappling.

All the warnings and eventual point deduction made Wlad look suspect because Wlad cannot box efficiently without excessive illegal holding and clinching.

Whats the excuse for Brewster when the same thing happened. ?

In the prime of his career and blown away in just 5 rounds.

 

It wasn't there in the Iggy fight. It wasn't there in the Haye fight.

He has a problem with movement. Thats why he could never even hurt glass jawed Haye in 12 rounds.

Was he declined in those fights too?

 

The counterpoint is he looked great vs Pulev ( Fast, accurate, powerfull ), and that fight happened in 2014, a year after Pineta.

Wlad needs to let his hands go more often. Losing Steward hurt. Banks isn't the next Steward he's an average trainer. I believe that if Wlad had Steward in his corner, he would have adjusted much sooner and beaten Fury because he trusts him.

Wlad corner is a mess these days. Banks tells him one thing, then Vitali says something a bit different.

While Fury has some unique talents ( he's very tall and mobile ), we know he can't take a punch. Wlad needs to throw them more often, cut off the ring, and use his bashing hook. Fury isn't Evander Holyfield in terms of counter punching.

 

Iggy and Haye backed out of the fight! They ran. Wlad won both easily.

In Fury case, he was just taller, longer, and much younger, so winning the way he did over Haye or Ibragimov wasn't an option for Wlad.

In the re-match, Wlad will adjust to attacking and cutting off the ring. He's too smart not to. I also question if Fury can get in the same shape for the re-match, or keep the same focus.

 

He has definitely declined and you could see it in the Jennings fight.
As a fan of Klitschko I hoped it was just a bad performance, for whatever reason.
However,he is clearly well past his prime. Like most boxers who lose there form I don't see him getting it back.

 

No, Wlad backed out against Iggy. He refused point blank to engage him and won by pecking at him from as safe away a distance he could. It was pathetic and got him banned from the US for years. He was reluctant to throw against a moving southie. Exactly like he was afraid against Fury.
Unfortunately for Wlad , Fury was double the size as Iggy and a better fighter than him by 10 levels.

Haye didn't run anywhere. He doesn't have the foot work. He never did. He hovered against the ropes. And Wlad showed once again he wasn't prepared to take any risk.
He nearly got bombed out in the 12th for being so gutless and held on illegally enabled by his usual corrupt ref.

Wlad fought the exact same fight you buffoon. In fact Wlad was up on his toes and bouncing around far more against Fury than he was against Haye.
He was gassed out in the 12th vs Haye.
He had plenty left in the 12th against Fury.

 

He fought worse against Sultan Iggy than he did against Jennings. He even fought worse than that against Williamson further back.

Was he past prime then too?:roll:

 

he won a wide UD against Ibragimov, who'd just beat Holyfield by wide ud - a guy you've laughably claimed Wlad ducked.

 

I guarantee you that Brock would be a titlist had he not been starched and decided his health more important

 

And Jennings fought such a perfect fight, not allowing Wlad to fight from the outside.

I think Wlad was fully expected FURY to rush him like Pulev did.

 

Nm

 

Like Ali vs holmes

 

He is 39 years old you clown, and for someone with wlad's style, that does affect your boxing abilities.

 

Yes, and if Fury wins you should remember to give him credit. :good

 

Did they give him credit after the first fight?