2015 since it's obvious you know dik about boxing, you really should go back to watching UFC then you'll see exactly what glass jaws look like. I once saw Brock crawling on the canvas to avoid getting hit.
You are just sinking to the depths of blatantly lying now. I am not surprised. While trying to stand Holmes pitches forward facefirst into the corner turnbuckle!! If the turnbuckle wasn't there he would have fallen. He then gathers himself and walks AWAY from the corner. Why am i bothering, you can't even speak the truth when the video evidence is there for all to see. [yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlu4R_ZobU0[/yt] So they were fighting in the mental hospital? Heavens no, they should stop throwing punches to the head immediately in case the cut gets worse, the fight stopped and they win. You idiot. McCall at one time was The Ring's number 2 heavyweight in the world. Rahman got to at least 4 that i remember. If these are D level fighters you need to book into that mental hospital you think Lewis and McCall fought in. I have never seen any excuses made for the McCall fight. It's common knowledge Lewis had some weaknesses at that time, particularly when bringing back the jab. Enamuel Steward is on record as getting confident the moment he saw the fighters Lewis was using for sparring. He said something akin to they should not have been in the same hall as Lewis let alone his sparring partners. Erm the South African fight was Rahman you idiot Take a deeeeeep breath and count to 10. Make that 1000. Show me where i called Douglas a D level fighter I'm starting to think you are hallucinating half this tripe. I've seen people, and not just in here, use the Young fight heavily against Foreman. The irrelevant entity schooled him, even dropped him. It was never avenged. It was at Foreman's peak. Yeah??? Lewis beat him twice (we all know the draw was a farce) head to head and is above him on the majority of lists i have seen so i heavily beg to differ :good
A poll should be added to this thread. I'd like to see how true it is that people rate Lewis higher than Holyfield. I've always rated Holyfield higher than Lewis. Maybe I'm in the minority but I at least think the poll would be close.
Holyfield fought the better opposition. I would compare Lewis's comp on level with Tyson's comp, they fought lesser opposition than Holyfield but put together dominant reigns along the way. Depends what you like in your criteria. I like dominant reigns. Holyfield was like the Ric Flair of boxing, he'd lose unexpectedly but would come back stronger and pull off upsets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlu4R_ZobU0 Actually here is the snipes video. Larry is knocked down at 3:07 but he is up on his feet and stable by 3:14. When the referee talks to him, he is walking around like a boss on very stable, steady legs and is assuring the referee that he is okay and ready to fight on. The Renaldo moves in for the kill and tries to continue his onslaught and Larry handles it like a boss. In fact screw Holmes, let me just use Tyson Fury as an example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIkCJaQ-6o In this video Fury knocked down at 0:07 and is up by 0:14 and he calmly walks back to his corner on very steady legs and when the referee talks to him he signals like a boss he is ready to continue Now we will compare Chinny Lenni cant take a punch to the face Lewi against Mccall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F7TBtXnnJ8 Mccall floors him at 0:03, he just has that girly drunk look on his face, he gets up at 0:10 but just look at his legs and his face, he is so badly shaking, tremoring, he can't keep still, he looks very dizzy, like he could stumble and fall at any second, he is leaning on the referee for support, had the referee not been there, Lenni might have fallen down. The referee is giving him every possible chance to prove to him he is okay, there is no signal at all of confidence from Lenni that he is okay and even when the referee waives it off, his legs are still shaking and his face is still dizzy. Quite frankly, your fetish for this chinny girl is what is embarrassing. A lame response, just written for the sake of spamming and trolling. Duly ignored. I just proved the guy is so desperate for victory, he is willing to permanently impair and blind his opponent to win a boxing match. Hardly the sign of an honourable sportsman. You are conveniently ignoring my question, if Mccall is not a D level fighter, then why should Tyson be ashamed of losing to a guy who beat Mccall? Pretty simple, because you have no real answer. Not sure about you but i have seen plenty of Lenni nut huggers make excuses like Lenni did not take Mccall seriously as Mccall was a D level opponent. Excuses which are okay for Lenni but not for Tyson against Douglas. If anything Lenni nut huggers should get a PHD in double standards. Honestly speaking, you are getting very lame now picking on my typos. By making fun of Tyson's loss to Douglas you are not insinuating Douglas was a D level fighter? Not sure, i read that Foreman had medical issues during that fight. It was the last fight of his career at that time and frankly speaking no one really cared just like they dont care with Ali. Its funny where you show double standards and pretend to not even know it. So for Lenni it is perfectly okay to age dramatically in a span of 18 months as happened as per your logic between the Tyson and Vitali fight with Lenni, but the same cannot happen to Holyfield from the Tyson wars of 1996-97 to his fights with Lenni in 1999? Lewis's resume is just padded up with fighting major opponents when they were past their primes and his nut huggers know it full well but shamelessly deny it.
Holyfield was the true warrior, punched above his weight, never showed any fear in his heart, fought every major guy out there at the right time. The fact he beat a much better version of Tyson and the manner in which he did so compared to Lenni puts him on a higher pedestal. His wars with Bowe, he got in the ring with Foreman, Holmes. Came back from adversity both in the ring and in life. Fought on well past his prime. Battled Valuev. How can you not respect such a guy. And then you have a girly HW champion of the world who gets starched like an over protected girl twice by single shots to the face and then makes excuses "This is the HW division, any one can end a fight with one punch", "He threw a great punch that my chin happened to be in the way off". Can you ever imagine the likes of Holyfield and Tyson saying something like this. These guys tooks bombs to the face but remained on steady legs.
Depends who you ask, some rank Holyfield higher than Lewis. They fought in 1999 and Holyfield was past prime. In 1999 Lewis was at his best in my opinion. Age has little to do with prime. Lewis should have won their first fight but it was scored even. The rematch was close and a case can be made for a Holyfield win but no way was Lewis going to lose a close decision after the controversary following their first fight... to be honest a draw woukd have been fair. I think Holyfield wins (both men at their very best). Holyfield did not lose a pro fight until age 30. Keep in mind that he won a World Title fight vs. a Hall of Famer in just his 12th fight and 2nd year as a pro. During this 8 year undefeated stretch he went 28-0 (22) overall, 10-0 (7) in World Title fights, and 5-0 (2) vs. Hall of Famers. Despite his age he would go on to beat Bowe, Mercer, Tyson x2, Moorer, Rahman, Ruiz, Oquendo, and others. He also drew with Lewis. On Lewis' best night I could see him beating anyone but I could say the same for Holyfield. I rank Holyfield behind Ali and Holmes. I rank Lewis behind Foreman... pretty much even with Tyson.
That's fine. I just feel lenni gets too over rated for meaningless things when there are so many better fighters who have a stronger case of being ahead of him. Sent from my SM-G925W8 using Tapatalk
Oh I get it. KTFO by McCall and Rahman, close fight with Mercer could have went either way, struggled with Bruno. Gets too much credit for beating a washed up Tyson and a past prime Holyfield. Went life and death with Vitali and retired instead of giving him a rematch. Beat everyone he faced at some point but that doesnt erase the 2 KO losses. At his best he was tough to beat though.