Mr. Andre Son of God Ward will dominate hard.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, Jun 20, 2016.


  1. Villain

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    You guys do realize you are arguing about racism with a guy from "Trump Land" right? Talk about wasting your time.

    This fight is going to bring all the racists to the yard. On both sides.
     
  2. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL...Obama disciple. FOH. Obama won't even say the word "black" in a public forum. I don't have anything personal against President Obama. And yes I did vote for him. But, he hasn't really done a damn thing for black people in the US...directly anyway. And while "black lives matter" just as much as all lives, this so called movement is not moving anything in the direction where it needs to go. It's boisterous and garners attention. But, it offers no real solutions. I appreciate the spirit of it. But, its purpose is unclear, other than creating awareness. So, understand whom you are talking to before making assumptions about their allegiances, affiliations and influences.


    Based on your Obama and BLM rhetoric, I don't think you have a deep enough understanding of racial dynamics in the US to speak intelligently about how certain umbrella terms are used (or not) to target and identify certain 'undesirable' members of society, based on race. The terms change, but, their intent remains the same.

    If you are not LIVING this reality, your mind has to be open enough to recognize and understand these matters. I don't have a sense that you are living it or that you do have an open mind with respect to this.

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  3. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Dunno about Kovalev but I'll be disappointed if Dre doesn't dominate ALEXANDER fkn BRAND hard. Really. Was that the best Roc could find? OK, I mean, yeah, I get not wanting to put the big fight in jeopardy, but was there no LHWs available? - I mean if you're gonna go for a guy who's barely top 30, at least find someone in the same division.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thug isn't a racist term, in fact the majority of the words people are accusing of being racist lately aren't racist terms either, what the **** has happened to this country? Why is everybody a hyper sensitive p**** all of a sudden? This is a boxing site, man up, and yeah I know I call out guys like cereal monotony frequently, only because he's basically a Nazi.
     
  5. I'm well aware of what's going down. There are hoardes of protesters who want to loot and vandalise and then when the police get involved and try to stop it, these felons want to cry racism.

    They want full impunity from justice or else they'll play the race card and play victim.

    Obama has used the situation to his political advantage by playing blacks against the police and so the police force are demonised and the blacks keep looking externally to blame other people for their own problems even though there is greater black on black crime then there is police brutality.

    You will never see a protest from black neighborhood when when their bros shoot or knife another, only when the cops act on someone running away from a police officer after they committed a crime.
     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you are confusing riots with peaceful protests. You do know that there are plained clothes police who are assigned to some of the peaceful demonstrations for the purpose of inciting a riot, right? Obviously, not everyone at these protests are there to support the cause...some are opportunitists looking to steal or cause havoc. But, you only see things through a very narrow lens, apparently.

    Obama appears to always be on his heels in this situation. I doubt he is playing anyone. But, he isn't really on top of things as he should be. But, neither are the local authorities. The situation has always been a powder keg, waiting to explode. It just takes the right conditions to ignite it. Police shooting unarmed children would certainly qualify. Police should ALWAYS be held to a higher standard. There are no exceptions.

    You obviously have no idea what communities are doing to deal with crime internally. Because, you probably don't live in or around any of these communities. Your vantage point is likely from your couch watching CNN or local news which thrive on sensationalism. They are not going to report the local church putting together a rally to help stop black on black crime. They are going to report to you that a black church was shot up by a white extremist. Or that policemen put an unarmed black man in an illegal choke hold, because he allegedly sold cigarettes to feed his family...and they didn't even get charged for it. These events are deserving of public outcry. Not just from the black community. But, from every community.

    To call for justice in these matters is "playing the race card" in the mind of a racist.


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  7. scarecrow

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    There is no more mental toughness in the country anymore. People are just so content to wallow in mediocrity and just exist. And people act like they have a right to walk through life without being offended. **** happens, people say things. Suck it up and continue your life.

    The Trump anti PC pushback is incredible. I don't know if he'll win, but he's giving this country a kick in the ass with his campaign.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Exactly, this victim culture we live in is nauseating, its not even liberal or progressive, most of the movements back in the 60's were called "power" movements, Black Power or Gay Power, they were based on a position of strength and now somehow they've morphed into "wahhh you're mean to me, stop it" over the last 40 years.

    I love everything Trump is doing in terms of pushing back on the PC police, even though I don't politically agree with everything he stands for, but this anti-Free Speech crybaby culture we're mired in needs to end.
     
  9. scarecrow

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    Exactly. I don't agree with all his policy positions either. But the PC culture pushback is refreshing.
     
  10. There shouldn't be protests in the first place. Most of the time these protests take place because some black youth got roughed up by a policer officer, after he was caught committing a crime.

    The solution is simple, don't commit a crime and you will not be in the position of being mistreated.

    Why don't any other communities have such a large problem with the police?

    There was a white boy, who got gunned with 5 bullets by a police officer becaue he didn't comply and didn't follow simple orders to provide his driving licence.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-year-boy-shot-killed-cops-flashing-headlights-flexing-rights/

    Why didn't the white community stage a protest after that? Because they have better things to do and don't precieve every injustice as an attack on their race.

    You accuse me of having a racist mind, simply because I don't sympathise with the pathetic sob stories and then you try to mention children to pull the heart strings even further :lol:

    You want me to congrulate the community because a few do gooder churches have tried to curb the problem with black on black crime? Why are there not masses of them protesting like when you see them out holding up cities when one of the hoodlums cause a crime and get killed by a cop?

    Tell me? Is it that big bad white cop stopped them all from protesting in large numbers against black on black crime?

    Start taking responsiblity for your own actions instead of expecting the police to take responsibility for every criminal, when they have only a split second in serious instances to make a decision, their life or the armed criminals.

    The police are not going to baby and play with kid gloves if a criminal is armed, refusing to comply with orders or is running away. Don't put yourself in that position and you will nver have to deal with those situations. It's that ****ing simple, yet the whole black community can't see it.
     
  11. CST80

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    Its awesome I've been wanting to see this for quite sometime, all the PC bull**** started when I was in middle school back in the mid 90's, I hated it then, its become sickening now. But I'm afraid due to Trump's pushback they'll double down on it.

    But while it lasts Trump's anti-PC reign of terror is a beautiful sight to behold.:lol:
     
  12. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. Nothing more nauseating than seeing a bunch of adults going "stop being mean, acceptance, whaaaaaa".

    Its shocking, but that's how basic and non intellectual, politics and our country is becoming.
     
  13. punisher

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    This is a waste of my time. Very often, the victims are not in the act of a committing a crime when they are roughed up or outright murdered by police. It's on VIDEO...you cannot deny that. We have video of innocent men being shot in the back. Even one video where the policemen tried to stage the scene as if there was a struggle, beforehand.

    You turn a blind eye and make excuses for racial injustice and race soldiers that call themselves police, because it does not affect you.

    I don't care if you sympathize. You don't matter. I could give a damn about pulling the heart strings of the heartless. People with your mindset are exactly why these issues occur. You are narrow in your thinking. For you to sympathize is a chasm of a stretch to empathize is an imposssible task. But, I felt somewhat compelled to educate you. Because you are ignorant and blinded by contempt. However, some people are beyond education. You can remain in your cave. The world won't miss you.

    Calling Andre Ward of all people a "thug" made it clear your capacity to see beyond color is severely impaired. The man is an absolute saint compared to neantherdals who think police shooting an unarmed child in cold blood is not worth batting an eye over...is not worth public outcry. But, I guess in your little mind, it's just another "thug" off the street. FOH.

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  14. Manfred

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    Enter the dragon.
     
  15. Manfred

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    Hopkins declined to fight Ward. That should tell you something.