Does Tua beat Ali, too?

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think that louis was taller than me, i have eyes and i have Seen him next to ali, and I AM 6´1 1/2
     
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    The bottom line is that you can’t tell which of two fighters is stronger from their physical dimensions.

    You could find a power lifter who weight in under the middleweight limit, who would be much stronger than any of the heavyweights mentioned.
     
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    What you think is irrelevant, I have Louis's own quote from his autobiography he was 6'1.5". Whether you choose to ignore it is up to you,the only thing it would do is further damage your credibility .
     
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    He is listed at 6'2
     
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    Not in his autobiography.I'll take Louis's word on how tall he was.
    I'd say that is the reasonable stance!
     
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    I said so? Show me it please.. i dont know about his rank "pfp" but he would have a great chance to destroy marciano,dempsey and louis
     
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    Tua was the Earnie Shavers of the 90's and 2000's

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    Except no one was knocking him out.:think
     
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    I'm also on record for saying the same thing.

    Against Tua I think prime Ali beats he rather convincingly on points, but the Ali who fought Frazier and was largely stationary in comparison is a completely different story. I think Tua has a decent chance against that version of Ali.
     
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    Tua was far better than shavers,much more dangerous puncher because he had stamina was a great finisher and carried his power to the later rounds and his chin was x10 better than earnie's.he was stronger much more robust and much heavier
     
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    No argument from me:good
     
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    You try to exagerate it but the funny thing is that you did put norton as impossible example and i guarantee you that every guy on this forum would put his money on tua by ko vs norton.( Many will say no cause i was who said it, but yes, everyone will put his euros and dolars or pounds on tua by ko brutally).i would be worry if i was the trainer of frazier if i could i would avoid tua, prime ali and holmes outpoint him easily,holyfield would beat him by decision with some dangerous moments,tyson is an enigma,if he was at his very best and he fights the correct fight Then he should outwork tua,if he goes toe to toe with tua Then David would outlast him with better chin and better stamina,i pick 88 tyson by ud,90s tyson would get stopped late.liston... the same that tyson... but listón was not fast enough so i have my doubts,i have no problem seeing tua knocking him out cold i cant see listón knocking tua out
     
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    Lmao!!!!!
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Very fair breakdown.