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The Madrigal Of The Krusher: His Fistic Syncopated Polyphonic Symphony Of Destruction.

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CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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Kiwiman and Mendoza I really appreciate the compliments. thumbsup

And yeah I have nothing against national pride, that's fine, I'm a proud American, just not obnoxious about it like a lot of people on here.

CST80, Jun 22, 2016

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You had to drag this classy thread (for me) into the mud with your xenophobic despicable hatred for Russians didn't you? What kind of ****ing liberal are you anyway? Liberals are supposed to like all nationalities last time I checked, but you seem to prefer some nationalities over others.
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Don't get delusional by thinking you've actually made something classy for once. Continue on with your fetish for Russian men. :yep

Jeff M, Jun 22, 2016

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CST80 said: ↑

Kiwiman and Mendoza I really appreciate the compliments. thumbsup

And yeah I have nothing against national pride, that's fine, I'm a proud American, just not obnoxious about it like a lot of people on here.
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KiwiMan, Jun 22, 2016

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Which brings me to......

The Madrigal Of The Krusher
A madrigal is a type of classical composition that was popular in Italy around the time of the Renaissance. They were highly unique, whereas many works of classical music follow a linear pattern gradually building towards a crescendo, a madrigal was usually polyphonic in nature, which means that there were 2 to 8 different singers singing at once and all in different keys and rhythms, they were through-composed, sticking to no pattern, continuously shifting it rhythms from stanza to stanza building unpredictably to its crescendo in a non linear fashion all the while retaining its complexity yet remaining hauntingly beautiful. These pieces could almost be considered early forms of jazz, only far more refined.

Sergey Kovalev fights like a madrigal, you may say to yourself, oh please Kovalev is a come forward plodder who relies heavily on his frightening power, he's nothing special....well you couldn't be more inaccurate in your assessments.

He is far more special a fighter than many of you seem to comprehend, I'll lay out what he does that's so unique and why you might not notice it. His footwork is brilliant in three different ways, 1st he cuts off the ring to perfection, he never follows, he corners and traps, 2nd he controls distance with his footwork beautifully, always bouncing just out of range to avoid an incoming punch, he's always close enough to hit you, but quite often he's out of there before you can hit him, and 3rd he does not need to set his feet to punch you, he uses the shifting technique to set down on his punches while moving forward, which is really hard and few can do. That is incredibly important key to his success as well as Golovkin's. Most fighters no matter how fast they are usually have to stop and plant their feet to get proper leverage on their shots to do damage even someone like Gonzalez or Pacquiao. Kovalev and Golovkin have both perfected the ability to shift and sit down on their punches while walking forward, which one of the main reasons their opponents have difficulty avoiding their punches.

His punch selection is also jazz like, its almost polyphonic, he's two fisted and can vary his punches with both hands and adjust them in midair to still find their target and inflict maximum damage. He's playing a tune on his opponent's head and body with a double barreled assault, and he throws in combination, uppercuts, right hooks, left hooks to the body and head, overhand left, overhand right, upjab, right cross, uppercut to the body, he's mastered almost every punch, and he's throws them with such a loose and fluid style and add in the directional changes it makes it hard for his opponents to estimate the time of arrival or its location of touchdown.

He also punches in a very unique hard to time syncopated style, whereas most fighter follow a standard jab jab cross beat, he offsets the rhythm by changing up the tempo of his punches, he instead punches like this... jab jab (slight pause) cross (slight pause) hook, therefore throwing off the opponent's reaction time causing them to either let down their guard or put up their guard too quickly, which opens up his intended target. Or he varies up the rhythm by doing two or three in a row half beat, and the last full beat, and the next combo half beat, full beat, half beat. Its a very subtle tactic, which thoroughly throws his opponents into tizzies completely confusing them, because they have no clue where the next punch is coming from, how hard it'll be, where to defend, what to leave open, they're in constant fear, which usually ends up overwhelming them and eventually they run right into a punch they never see coming, because its usually masked by a feint or two or three, which he's also brilliant at. And add to that Kovalev is also a skilled counterpuncher after all he almost KO'd BHop with a check right hook, that poor Bernard never saw coming. And he can throw a cross over a jab quite well to boot.

So therefore add in Ward's slight decrease in speed and reaction time due to his added weight, his tendency to fade late into fights, probable heightened cautiousness due to fear of counters, inability to get the unpredictable rhythm and timing down of a constantly adjusting virtuoso at setting an off kilter pace, Kovalev's excellent ability to open up intended targets without his opponents awareness, Ward's questionable chin and the fact than Kovalev might be the hardest P4P puncher in the sport, and Kovalev is literally the walking embodiment of a nightmare opponent for Andre Ward.

He cuts off the ring better than Kessler, he hits harder than Froch and Abraham, he's just as fast if not faster than Dawson, and most importantly, like Sakio Bika his offense has a broken rhythm which is almost impossible for a rhythm breaker to key into.

And if all else fails and Ward is able to figure him out, Kovalev can just walk right through him and bludgeon him from one side of the ring to the other like he did Hopkins in the 12th round.

Kovalev is Ward's journey into the heart of Tenebrae personified. :scaredas:

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Kovalev is a beast and all.
But i just can't see past a ward domination
I hope I'm proved wrong though

ImBetterThanJoe, Jun 23, 2016

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Ward will win the fight because he is a very quick fighter with an outstanding IQ.

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Wow. Nice write up CST. This is another example of why you're such a highly regarded poster on this forum. I wasn't picking up on these subtleties. This ****ysis will make Kov's fights so much more fulfilling to watch. Thanks.

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Olu G. Rotimi said: ↑

Ward will win the fight because he is a very quick fighter with an outstanding IQ.
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While Kovalev is slow, has no ring IQ and will sit and wait for Ward to do as he pleases... Actually Kovalev has never won a fight - all his opponents simply knocked themselves out, right?

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Quality read and some interesting insights, ignore the trolling idiots who want to drag the few decent threads into the usual slagging **** measuring contests.

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CST man that Florida sun is going to be the death of you, that's one heck of a long post. If that's what it takes to convince yourself you are certain Kova wins then so be it. I think a post can be created describing all the ways Ward can out perform kovalev unfortunately most cerebal folks have jobs and yes families that take up most of their time. I read through some of it and from a reinforcement standpoint you did well though skill set vs skill set I can't ward losing to kovalev however fights are fought in the ring and not hashed out on paper.

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What a great idea for Ward to face Brand last night, a retreating awkward featherfisted Super Middleweight counter puncher who throws from wild angles, forcing Ward out of his comfort zone causing him to be the aggressor yet he looked slow and incredibly apprehensive to taste Brand's power, is just what he needed to prepare him for one of the hardest punchers in the sport who controls range incredibly well while walking his opponents down.

CST80, Aug 7, 2016

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You can see why GGG and kovalev would be bad for ward more so kovalev

when you are apprehensive to taste brands power imagine guys like GGG?

ward was badly hurt and knocked down by boone a guy curtis stevens beat up

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Excellent assertion CST. I've been saying the short of this to the
casuals in a nutshell. Sergey throws punches like he has a slingshot
in his chest. He can throw the straight shot out of order when it's not
natural to do and with power. Andre won't be able to time KOv because
he doesn't load up to throw and even when Ward is trying to stab Kov
to the body he can be counter with a fast ball right to the ear, neck
or even the upper trap muscle. Ward WILL GET HIT AND HARD. That's
what he's never had to contend with his entire career.........
Another thing CST, thanks for making this post as it's brought the last
of the old eastside boxing aficianado's out together. Away from the mouth breaters that mostly populate this dipsh-t infested site now. :good

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CST80 said: ↑

It's ****erotic for a reason, that's how deeply your infatuation with him runs, its become perverse, get some help.

And see, you made it about GGG once again.:blood And no Shockmaster its you who is begging for attention, they're only eating your trollbait by the plate full and falling for your bull****, I am a boxing fan across the board, of all divisions, not an obsessed fanboy who wastes two seconds of my time thinking about and much less hyper analyzing something someone said 3 years ago and continually using it against them like I'm running a smear campaign in the 2016 elections against my opponent. I don't even do that with fighters I genuinely hate.

You're an obsessed propagandist, nothing more, just like 70 to 80% of the posters on this site. You live on arguing, myself, I'm not that fond of arguing, I like discussing matches, or leaving my opinion and moving on. Like the other 20 to 30% of posters on the site.
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:happy Amen brother!! Cast the demons out of ESB. Bring back
the quiz, bring back the quiz.

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christo said: ↑

Excellent assertion CST. I've been saying the short of this to the
casuals in a nutshell. Sergey throws punches like he has a slingshot
in his chest. He can throw the straight shot out of order when it's not
natural to do and with power. Andre won't be able to time KOv because
he doesn't load up to throw and even when Ward is trying to stab Kov
to the body he can be counter with a fast ball right to the ear, neck
or even the upper trap muscle. Ward WILL GET HIT AND HARD. That's
what he's never had to contend with his entire career.........
Another thing CST, thanks for making this post as it's brought the last
of the old eastside boxing aficianado's out together. Away from the mouth breaters that mostly populate this dipsh-t infested site now. :good
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:good Thanks Christo, I have a few other epics I have bobbling around in my head, but haven't had a chance to sit down and write them. Maybe eventually I will. Have you seen my piece on Calzaghe?

CST80, Aug 7, 2016

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Good read!

Hi-Tek-Lomo, Aug 7, 2016

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