Jim Corbett v Ken Norton15rds

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Something interesting is happening right now in boxing due to the internet.

    Communities are forming together, many of them are amateur boxing online communities.

    You'll be surprised at how often manuals from the 1800's, or a Lee Wylie video of Joe Louis help these up and comers learn how to deal with specific challenges in the ring.

    Recently someone had an issue with a specific fighter using his forearm to push his head away. The solution he found to that problem was in an 1888 boxing manual.

    You make it sound like we've had major technological breakthroughs of hitting people in the face with your fists. Things have changed, but not the tune you imply.

    A determined man can beat the best scientific boxer simply because the latter fighters energy is sapped, or he is unmotivated.
     
  2. reznick

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    You just said Ann Wolf would beat this man
    http://www.josportsinc.com/item_images/1247247159.jpg

    :lol: :hi:
     
  3. reznick

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    Never heard of that place. You never fail to amuse with the stuff you conjur up :lol:
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Can you explain what you mean by this (wrt the bit about Sharkey and Norton that you highlighted)?
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Can you tell me what problem you're having comprehending it?
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :yep
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I can't be too insulted by someone who can't differentiate a slap from a punch.

    Or who thinks that Ann Wolf would beat Corbett :lol:

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  8. reznick

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    Sharkey fought at the highest level of the sport. So he obviously knew a whole lot about boxing.
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Or maybe the highest level of the sport wasn't very high back then? :think Do you know much about Sharkey's background and upbringing in boxing? (sincere question)
     
  10. mcvey

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    Joe Louis would beat all Corbett's challengers in the same night.
    Corbett's opposition was largely left overs from the London Prize Ring. Mitchell ,McCaffrey,and Choynski were all middles or big middles,and they are three of his best wins.
    Kilrain was a bareknuckle brawler.
    Corbett was kod with one punch by a 157lbs man and took 21 rds to put away a drunk tub of a champion who had not fought in four and a half years!
    1.Ask yourself truly what is his best win?
    2, Then research it, the circumstances of it ,the current level that his opponent was at, and in turn what his best wins were and then, if you come back here spouting the same sh*t,I'll personally shoot you myself when I'm over in July! Things have changed drastically since Corbett's day Corbett himself said he liked to watch Tommy Loughran because he executed moves he had never done because he had so few contests .
     
  11. reznick

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    I don't confine ones fighting ability to any particular style or way of fighting.

    For instance, I don't subscribe to the school of thought that Marciano wasn't a great boxer. I understand where that characterization comes from. It comes from him not fitting the mold of being "scientific."

    Curious though, if McVey replaced the words Sharkey with Marciano, would you react differently? So I can better understand the seriousness of that statement, or if exaggeration is implied.
     
  12. reznick

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    So you use size as a reason why Louis would clean them up with ease?

    Not that I disagree with Louis beating them, but how do you reconcile with Louis dominating 250lb Super Giants, but having trouble with 170lbs of Conn?

    And did you just threaten to shoot me? :lol: Wtf man chill. Let's not do anything crazy over a disagreement on boxing history, yeah?
     
  13. mcvey

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    I'm not using size I'm using ability. Louis was a revelation ,a great jab ,smooth combinations ,hooks off the jab , a perfect right cross, uppercuts with either hand.
    He makes the footage of Corbett look ridiculous.Conn weighed 168lbs and the reason Louis had trouble with him was because not wanting to appear the bully at over 200lbs he dried out to 199lbs foregoing liquids the day of the fight and ,in his own words he felt like sh*t when he climbed through the ropes.

    The shooting was a joke.:lol:















    I'm going to stab you.:twisted:
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Do you know much about Sharkey's background and upbringing in boxing? (sincere question)
     
  15. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I haven't read a book about him or anything. I know he didn't have a scientific fighting style. Are there some major red flags I'm missing or something?