Floyd Mayweather's biggest win was avoiding prime Manny Pacqauio in 2009/10

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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then Pac should of signed the F_cking fight and proved it! Instead all we have to go by is your wishful thinking and the fact that when they did fight Floyd won easy like he always said he would!
     
  2. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A May/delahoya and May/Mosley in 2000-2003 woulda been great fights as well.
     
  3. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    This is abhorrent. A 2015 Floyd is much closer to prime than a 2015 Pacquiao. Pacquiao was semi-shot:
    That's what having an aggressive style rising the weight classes being in wars, being knocked out in one of the most brutal manners ever, being slowing down notably since 2011 (especially in the opinion of Mayweather himself who mentions this in such an emphatic way), being a former light flyweight where the expiration date of guys who spend the majority of their career in lower weight classes is quicker, risen up to welterweight where your power, speed, athleticism etc. are echelons lower, having a legitimate shoulder injury that Ellerbe was aware of, a bad camp due to the injury, unable to take a legal painkiller, against a guy naturally bigger than you who apparently was dehydrated and had the T/E ratio of a 128.5 year old man who got an IV which is commonly used in sports to mask PED use. Moreover, the OFFICIAL medical fact is that Pac underwent shoulder surgery for a torn rotator cuff.


    Keep telling yourself Mayweather would've beaten a prime Pacquiao. Actually don't, I don't want you to feel better.

    A younger Pacquiao had less pure boxing in his game, thus had more crudeness and less predictability in his game, he was fighting less of Mayweather's fight, and forcing more of his own fight - a big paradigm shift. Pac's speed, athleticism and workrate were vastly better than Mayweather's, and Pac's power in the lower weight classes was Golovkin-esque.
     
  4. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Mayweather didn't dare to be great by fighting these guys in their primes. He should have risen in weight classes the way Demographics say Golovkin should've.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Get real.

    Freddie was talking in hindsight.

    Was it their fault that Floyd wanted the entire PPV revenue AFTER Manny had AGREED to all of the testing?

    Both guys were to blame, but Floyd's actions prove that it was never solely the testing that prevented the fight from taking place earlier.

    Fight hype's comprehensive timelines are still available online.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    How many guys had OSDT back then?

    It wasn't that common.

    Why did it take Floyd 13 years to decide he wanted to clean up the sport?
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It works both ways.

    Floyd could have accepted Manny's demands. But in my opinion, it's all irrelevant anyway. History has proven that it would be very naive to think that the fight would have been made straight away even if Manny had immediately agreed to everything.
     
  8. maguswarlock

    maguswarlock Active Member Full Member

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    lmao. where is your proof that pac was cycling peds?

    meanwhile your idol got caught red handed with 750ml iv for which he had no logical reason to use other than masking peds.

    not to mention the failed testerone tests he wanted to keep under wraps by having out of court settlement with pac when fluid snr accused pac of roiding.

    so cmon dumbo wheres the evidence?
    let me answer that for you.. nowhere.

    fluid is a cowardly ducking cheat.
     
  9. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac, on PEDs or without, has never been good enough to beat Floyd, that's what is written in the history books, deal with it!
     
  10. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather didn't want have anything to do with Pacquiao in 09-10. He waited til marquez knocked him out and lost all his killer instinct and all that and then fought him
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    A default response.


    What evidence was there that Manny was cycling?

    All there was was the incoherent ramblings of Floyd Snr.


    Floyd on the other hand was caught with an IV. And if you were objective, you'd realise how illogical it is to claim that he needed it due to severe dehydration.
     
  12. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    :lol::deal
     
  13. Love2box

    Love2box Active Member Full Member

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    This is probably the best we will get from the Floyd fans. It went from "Pac was 100% on PED" to, "with, or without PED."

    For the record, I favored Floyd to win a UD 8-4 back in 09.
     
  14. maguswarlock

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    wheres your proof that pac used toradol more than fluid used his painkillers?

    and hows toradol a ped given the context of pacs injury? what painkiller due you suggest?

    you dumbo...