What you fail to realize is that they are all roughly the same age. Oscar was 34 and Mayweather was thirty when they fought and Oscar was coming off an excellent stoppage of Mayorga and had a championship belt. At 34 Floyd was taking the title from Ortiz. By the way, he had been calling out Oscar two years before that and Oscar was a no show. If Floyd can be considered prime at thirtyfour, why not Oscar? Genaro H was 32 when they fought. At 32 Floyd was defending his lineal feather weight titles. Again, if Floyd was prime at 32, why not Genaro? Mosley was not prime. He was thirty eight but he called Floyd out and got his ass spanked for his insolence. At thirty eight Floyd was schooling Manny. Manny was thirty six when he fought Floyd, At thirty six Floyd was showcasing against The Ghost and putting a serious boxing lesson on Alverez. You can make excuses for those gents but the fact is that they just couldn't beat Floyd at any age or any prime.
Age means nothing. It's RING AGE that matters. Case in point: HOF'er Pipino Cuevas was past it by age 24.
That's what I'm saying, age also doesn't mean that you are past your prime. You're saying that the HOF's that Floyd fought was past their prime because of their age and I don't agree with that.
You say they past prime but nearly every opponent Floyd fought was a champion/titlist coming off a big win unlike Pac who fought most of the big names coming off losses
They were past prime, to believe otherwise is absolutely absurd and is proof you have only seen their fights against Mayweather. You can't imagine in any way, shape or form, that they weren't past it.
That doesn't change the fact that they are not THE killers that they used to be, in their primes. Besides, Ancient Artefact Mosley fought Mayweather 1.5 years after his 'last great hurrah' vs a tailor made Margarito. 1.5 years means ring rust in itself, now add to an ageing fighter, and also add that to the fact that Mosley dropped from being someone who had even fights with prime ODLH to someone who had an even fight with Cotto in 2007. There are echelons between ODLH and Cotto. Mosley then went on to have a poor showing. ODLH is from 2007! It doesn't matter if he took Mayweather up to super middleweight, Oscar has visibly fallen far off. He wasn't even considered a boxer by then, he was a part time fighter who had other focusses. I explained the Pac situation very well, too. Mayweather's own very emphatic opinion was that Pac is no way near the fighter he once was, before the fight. Genaro looked very slow and flat right from the opening bell. Also, he was massively stylistically disadvantaged anyway.
Floyd was a part a time fighter for the most of his 30's fighting once every year or 2 but again, your sill double standards, mean Floyd no matter his age, size, weightclass or level activity is always Prime.atsch Only Floyd can fight world champions coming off a big wins and people still make excuses. No matter how much you want to rewriite history of make excuses, he had a great resume full of big name, world champion fighters who he beat easily:good
Floyd's RING AGE was much younger than Oscar's. Oscar had been in wars because guess what? Oscar fought the best of the best. A number of ATG's and HOF's, whereas Floyd has no at-or-near prime ATG or high-mid level HOF in his whole 19 year career. That's because there are legitimate reasons that I've listed that absolutely do dampen his best wins! When Floyd called himself TBE, he doesn't mean he's the best ever, but he's the best ever at the boxing game (i.e outside the ring, too).
In other words Floyd is better than they are, yeah on that we agree, and maybe most fighters realized that early on which is why they choose to cash out their Mayweather ticket when they out of other options. When fighters like Alvarez claim "his one loss to Floyd is ok because everybody lloses to Floyd" you still want to blame prime? How about you recognize the real reason why he undefeated, skill, talent, IQ, ability, yeah maybe Floyd is just that good!
In my opinion, Floyd is 'just that good'. I think prime for prime, he's a lock for 10-13th best ever and would have no problem with people having him as high as 8th best ever. He also had a lot of athleticism, reflexes, speed, etc. left when he dominated Alvarez for example. It's such a shame. Imagine Floyd's resume if the biggest names there were at-or-near prime. As much as I tried as a major PBF fan on ESB many years ago under a different name, I had to give up on the end defending Floyd the way you guys are, now.
