chinny ron lyle? Chinny ron lyle? Foreman could bomb out smaller chinny fighters? Do you think really that anyone will take you seriously? Jesús...
not if he got stopped before half time by retiring ali/frazier/foreman (an old lewis equivalent), or quit against bob foster/chris byrd equivalent That wouldn't be a monster, he'd be doing as good as Jean Pierre Coopman, he did as well vs ali as vitali did vs lewis. He'd be a Coopman. The inability to many on this board to understand why height, size, and range matter in the heavyweight division is either agenda ridden here or ignorant to some. this clown is trying to suggest vitali might be more durable than ali. they have replied, but u choose in kliturd world to ignore them.
Athletes don't evolve over time and don't get bigger, faster, nor stronger Whoever accomplished more obviously always would beat anybody who accomplished less
You can spot the boxing amateur who point to a hwts size. Point to the obvious when they can't comprehend the details that really count. Take away Vitalis PEDS and you have a very lanky 6' 6 220 pound hwt. Give those same PEDS to Foreman and you make a very scary hwt a monster.
It's easy to romanticize the "heavyweight" label, as though size differentials mean nothing simply because the weight class is unlimited. Throw up a fight between Ike Williams or Canzoneri vs Golovkin or McClellan, and all the sudden, that 20 pounds becomes the focal point of the whole thing despite the lighter guys having a superior resume.
Foreman fought in an era where PED's weren't even tested for and were available. We could play that same game for practically every modern heavyweight.
Wrong. Few boxers took PEDS in the 70's as it was viewed as a back alley approach. Fast forward 15 or so years later and it became a science and the people administering them knew much more of what they were doing. This gave those who would not dare touch it a level of confidence to do so. Take away Vitalis PEDS and you get a 220 pound Gerry ****ey type physique. Give them to 70s Foreman and you get a monster.
Boxing is a back alley business where fighters have historically done anything to win. Always have, and always will. It's impossible to say which "few" were or weren't on them. We can debate until the cows come home about how widespread they were, but I can say with 100% confidence that they were available in the era and untested for. Given their widespread use in other athletic endeavors, it seems naive to think they didn't have a place in heavyweight boxing, which was seen as the most prestigious title in sports. As such, I don't like throwing around claims on guys from later eras (even though, realistically, the majority of athletes now are on them) while giving a free pass to an era that had both access and even fewer barriers to entry. Sure, fewer guys may have been on them, but that doesn't mean top names would've been the ones to completely avoid them (just as in every other sport in every other era, today included)
You are just.....wrong. PEDS in 1975 were not PEDS of today. Most were afraid to touch them as they were viewed as back alley experiments. Today it's a science with degreed individuals administering them Huge difference and incomparable. You do not know what you are talking about.