The Four Who Baffled Liston Feb 1964 article.

Great find, dude!
Very interesting article! I really enjoyed that stuf!

 

Yes, that was an IBRO article years back. Quality read.

 

Very biased article. Baffled him ? Only one beat him , on a split decision because he was fighting with a broken jaw .
Liston was never in danger of being ko'd by Williams.
Whitehurst was outside the ring in the second fight trying to get back in when the final bell went.
DeJohn was p*ssed off because he thought Liston intentionally hit him when he was down. Liston apologized after the fight DeJohn said something and Liston took a swing at him.

Liston had Marshall up and down like a yo yo in their second fight and in the third Marshall didn't win a round!

King was stopped by Liston in both fights and floored twice in the second one which only went 3 rds !

Machen fought to survive.Folley couldn't even last 3 rds and was down twice for 9 counts"
Baffled my b*llocks!

The article is a pile of sh*t.

 

Agreed, and i've seen plenty similar over the years. It's a monument to how revered Liston was when they can come up with this tripe. I remembered an article when ****ey was pole axing his way thru the ranks, Johhny Davis, how i beat ****ey in the amateurs

Pretty sure he went on about how he could do it again in the pro's tho he weighed just 175.

 

I tend to agree. This was back when many fights weren't televised (certainly not sparring sessions), you couldn't go back and check the video and boxing records weren't readily available.

Also, most experienced boxing writers avoid writing articles where you go back and interview the former opponents of someone.

99% of the time, the guys you talk to tend to talk about how they were either "robbed" or how they were "winning" or how they were "just about to turn it on" before they lost.

You rarely find a losing opponent who, years later, just admits the guy who beat him was just better than him, and he'd never have beaten that great fighter no matter how many times they faced each other.

Every couple of years, you'll find some writer who thinks he has a great idea and he'll go back and interview opponents of a great fighters to try to get an idea of what it's like to step in the ring with that great fighter.

Invariably, all the articles end up being a bunch of guys saying, "I know I can beat him now." Or "I learned all his flaws when I lost to him before, and if I could get another fight with him I'd win."

Former opponents tend not to be objective.

What's also interesting is Ali would beat Liston within days of this article being published, and Ali didn't do anything these guys said you needed to do to beat Liston.

Ali didn't lay on the inside where they claimed it was "safe." He didn't work Liston's body where they claimed Liston "couldn't take it." He didn't throw rights to the heart and hooks to the head.

So everything they said a fighter should do to beat Liston ... Ali did the opposite and actually beat him.

 

Great find.

 

I absolutely defy anyone to watch this and tell me Liston is being baffled here,this slaughter would be stopped today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Ak2ufF7Zg

 

People believe what they want to.

 

Here's also proof that none of them knew how to, or could beat, Liston ... except Ali.

All the "technical" points brought up in the article and all the "how-to's" on ways to beat Liston resulted in losses by all those guys.

The boxer who beat Liston - Ali - didn't follow their advice at all. He didn't stay on the inside. He didn't work the body. He did nothing all the guys who lost to Liston said you should do to beat Liston.

It's an interesting example showing how - regardless of how they broke it down and how technical they got - none of these guys had a clue how to beat Liston.

 

:deal

This article should have been titled "I hate Sonny Liston, because, he's Sonny Liston"

Dog ****