70s Foreman vs Vitali Klitschko

As did the guys I mentioned. You aren't making a successful point here bud.

 

He was never dropped. Ali was. That's the point.

 

pretty much everyone who faces consistently good opposition gets dropped at some point n a long career.

The conclusion you should have reached is that vits -

1. Has a pretty good chin
2. Its a chin that's hes rarely tested vs good opposition.


YOU also appear to think that JUST BEING HEAVIER means you automatically hit harder. You need the necessary skill to hit harder, first and foremost in any division.

 

you must be aware that it was flash knockdown at best against a teenage Ali, with ali easily stopping him bare seconds later. This should be enough for you to realise your mistake but theres more.

You aren't comparing like 4like. You need evidence of a vitali round the same age as Ali outta school (for instance the nearest example might be when he got floored as a MMA if I'm not wrong).


Futhermore, we don't know Banks potential. Perhaps he would have gone on to become the type who drop Vitalis, but he died too young to prove it. Ali could have been in the ring with a future world champion.

 

I know most on this thread seem to pick one fighter or the other with almost 100% certainly but I got to be honest and say I go back and forth with this fight. I think Foreman would need to stop Vitali in the first 5 rounds otherwise I think he loses, probably by decision.

 

Ali fought a higher level of opponents that were hard hitting than Vitali's opponents. Vitali was so successful because he fought guys that he was taller and/or heavier than. Almost none of which knew how to fight a taller fighter.

 

Is this clown havin a laugh?

No case can be made. NONE. Its a proven fact that Vitali was less durable than Mercer, Merovic and the ghost of Mike Tyson.

A shell of Tyson took flush straight right hands from Lewis without even buckling.
Vitali went bambi legged off a Lewis JAB .

Vitali's chin is the biggest myth in boxing. Ali's chin was no myth and never will be.

Ali took more damage in one fight then Vitali did in his entire career.
And Vitali's career was full of absolute bums. Nobody's , every one of them.

 

Hi Perry! Forget the PED's for the moment. I'm still chuckling at the Vitali vs. Dempsey thread a while back. 21st century Vitali vs. a 1921 Dempsey?....BINGO you got us! Why didn't we think of that. :nut
Let's put a post-Tzarist 1921 Vitali (born late 19th century) against a 21st century Dempsey shall we? Nuff said....atsch

 

That's a baseless comment:
1. Sanders shellacked Wlad
2. Peter gave Wlad one of his toughest fights.
3. Briggs gave Lewis a pretty big scare, knocked out 6'4 Liakovich, and managed to get a win over Foreman.
4. Hide took rounds off Bowe before his punch resistance failed
5. Purrity stopped Wlad



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Yet Tyson was knocked down whereas Vitali never was.

Yet Ali was knocked down and Vitali never was.

So you're making a case that Vitali > Ali? OK.

Vitali was excellent defensively, I agree.

Dino sounds like he sucked his panties right up his sphincter at the end there. :good Way to go, champ.

 

Who do you think the stronger more powerful man would be?

 

Let's assume for an instant that I agreed with your statement.

Vitali would be taller and heavier than Foreman as well :deal

 

The guy that was 25lb heavier? :huh

 

The worst Tyson ever lasted two rounds longer against a much better Lewis than Vitali fought.

Ottke was never knocked down or out. Does that mean he has a better chin than Eubank who was down several times. Or Calzaghe who also was down several times?

Get of the forum idiot.

 

I seriously dobut Vitali was more powwrful than Foreman. Strength is debatable though.