Meldonium traces found in small amounts before 1 october 2016 are legal

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  1. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    desperate attempt by povetkin to get out of the fight, not get knocked out, and still collect some money

    shameful
     
  2. MVC!

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    Definitely.

    But people suggesting that Wilder is legally binding or in trouble... simply ridiculous.

    What did Wilder do that was legally wrong?

    :think

    He was in England and the news broke that the fight was going to be cancelled, therefore, he left back to the USA.

    Some people are truly deluded.

    I too would have left.
     
  3. The Long Count

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    Well I would of stayed because it leaves the impression he didn't want the fight. Especially because his resume is so light.
    Legally he did nothing wrong. It was his right.
     
  4. MVC!

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    It doesn't. Because he left actually the Monday the week after :patsch

    He didn't leave as soon as the rumours start spreading. He actually waited in England for the WBC's decision. After he got it, he booked a flight home - Something any sensible person would have done.

    It's people grasping for straws to deviate away from Povetkin's positive test.

    That being said, deep down I still want the fight to happen so Wilder can kick this cheater's ass after he is done with Arreola.
     
  5. Robney

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    I'm far from a Povetkin fanboy (and even less of a Windmiller one), but povetkin's case is very, very strong right now.
    Where do you get that from? It seems kinda impossible and completely nonsensical to microdose Meldonium because that would have zero effect. He isn't caught at all by the way, because they found a very small trace amount which now seems expected because he used it for years.
    I remember your previous claim was that people who believed that it could remain in your system that long were stupid to believe that... now it seems it can remain for quite a while longer according to WADA.
    Much longer as I and probably anyone expected.
    No he didn't. The WBC didn't have any type of ruling at the time and he went home immidiately and he was clearly putting the WBC on the spot.
    After that they didn't CANCEL the fight like Wilder claimed, but rather postponed it, and they didn't even rule if it's a postponement or cancellation until thiis very day.
    So you really believe the WBC will go against WADA and ban Povetkin for juicing before Meldonium got banned?! :blood

    You really are one for going against the popular opinion, are you?!
     
  6. Alabama BBQ

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    There's zero proof he took meldonium after Jan 1st, unless you can link us to WBC/VADA saying so?
     
  7. Legend

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    povetkin is inocent the demographic are are angry LOL
     
  8. MVC!

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    He is caught, and the fact that he had 3 negative tests early April and a positive one late April suggests the fact that he was doing it but couldn't mask it well enough to leave no traces.

    That's what it suggests.

    Actually, he never left home immediately. He waited for the WBC's decision, and he left the Monday AFTER. I'm not sure where you got this information from?

    Actually, his trainer was the one who broke news that the fight was CANCELLED, not postponed.
     
  9. MVC!

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    Read between the lines.

    The fact that he had 3 negative tests early April and a positive one mid April is damning evidence. :deal
     
  10. Legend

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    How can anyone prove Povetkin took the drug after jan?

    Povetkin case is getting stronger and stronger
     
  11. NaiKoN

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    It doesn't matter frankly MVC, his tests show less than 1 mcg and that's all that matters, it is within legal amount. And as far as I know, due to the fact that the amount is very small it may appear and disappear in test results.

    Waiting for WADA source for more detailed information.
     
  12. MVC!

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    I'm of the mindset that the reason it's that small is because he could not mask it well enough, he did leave stones unturned and that was what's left.

    That's the issue here.

    I'm saying that he got the full effects of it already, masked it off but failed in the masking process.
     
  13. Alabama BBQ

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    Come on man, read between the lines is not factual evidence and cannot be quantified.

    Fact: there's no proof he took meldonium after Jan 1st.
    Fact #2: WADA published TODAY new guidelines and they state you can have up to 1 microgram until Sep 30th 2016.

    Pov was found to have .07 micrograms!!!
     
  14. MVC!

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    If VADA was as thorough as many of you claim in terms of testing procedure, would they not have found it with their 1st test?

    The answer is most likely... yes

    The fact that it showed up in the 4th test could mean only 3 things

    1. He took it before Jan 1, and the amount is so minuscule that they only found it in their 4th test in April despite having a few tests before. VADA simply isn't advanced enough to screen for these things.

    2. He took it after Jan 1, tried masking it but left traces and did not complete the masking procedure properly

    3. He took Meldonium after the 3rd test, tried masking it but failed.

    I'm going with 2 or 3. Too shady.
     
  15. Legend

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    its more likely the first

    How comes you dont want to see the fight?

    This is proof povetkin was inocent now hopefully the wbc does the right thing and in force the mando on wilder to fight povetkin next