Jeffries v Walcott Computer Fight

I'd pick Walcott in a 15 rounder, but Jeffries in a longer fight.

 

often lost vs bigger men who can punch ( Louis, Marciano, Even Abe Simon! )

Jeffries who quicker feet than Marciano or Louis, Ko's him, perhaps in fewer rounds.

 

Walcott was such a magnificent counter-puncher that he would have a field day with Jeff's crude swings. If he didn't chop up Jeff late, Jersey Joe strolls to a 15 round decision.

 

Your ignorance continues to build.

Al Ettore who was a weak puncher knocked Walcott out. Ettore at the time of the fight had but 17 Ko's in 61 fights. :deal

Yes--Fox could punch some. Guess what, he knocked Walcott out too. Thanks for helping me make my point.:deal

Ray is not on film. I'm not even sure if Ray ever KO'd a contender while that person was in the top ten. I don't see it if he did. His KO record is inflated with journeyman. I think Ray was aggressive, but not a banger.

If I wanted to spend the time, I could show the particulars of the other men listed, none of which punched in Fitzsimmons, or perhaps even in Sharkey's class.


PS: Let me know when you hear the radio call on Jeffries vs Ali.

 

In all my years of watching boxing, counter punching works best with a missed head shot. Jeffries went to the body a lot, and you seldom see a counter punch when someone goes to the body because body punches tend to land somewhere.

Jeffries best punch was the hook. I doubt Walcott wanted to risk making Jeffries miss there to counter.

Unless you think Walcott could take Jeffries punches, he doesn't win here.

 

If you mean do I think Walcott could fight in the pocket against Jeffries, yes I do. Of course I don't mean he's going to stand there just to take punches. Walcott was way too smart a fighter to stand in front of anyone and take punches. Walcott was an expert at the shimmy, the cake-walk, the shuffle. He made you miss and made you pay on the counter. And Jeffries wide-open style was just made for a good counter-puncher. Again, Walcott over 15.

 

That sums it up nicely.

 

Walcott is a stylist to admire for sure, but he's also overrated for giving two very popular champions hell in Marciano and Louis.

Rocky's short arms had trouble finding their mark, and Louis lack of defense and slow feet made Walcott's style shine.

Jeffries doesn't have short arms, nor does he had slow feet. Joe was stopped 6 times, and some of them were from lesser punchers. Something like 13 different men defeated Walcott.

I don't think he lasts the distance, which is not to say he wouldn't have his share of moments.

 

Even though we disagree, at least you thought it out. I tire of discussions/arguments where someone is just hero-worshipping and they 'don't wanna hear about it'.

 

Cheer Scartissue!

For whatever reason, Walcott tended to gas a bit in the final rounds. He also showboated at times, and it cost him the second Louis match.

Durability was not his forte.

While some of his early losses can be dismissed, I can't figure out why he lost to Rex Layne or Joey Maxim in what seems to be his prime.. He had more ability than both.

Walcott was one of those erratic performer types. He could be brilliant one fight and pretty average in the next.

There used to be this reporter who went by the name Malcolm (Flash) Gordon. A behind the scenes type of boxing reporter based in New York in the 1960's to 1980's who wasn't shy about exposing boxing's shady ways. IMO, Flash is good enough for his own thread. I don't know a lot about him. Perhaps some of better older posters here remember him?

Anyway Flash felt on his best night Walcott was 3rd all time best heavyweight in history! I never saw anyone rank Walcott as high. Balanced out if memory serves by rating Louis and Marciano #1 and #2. Fans of Jersey Joe should check out Malcolm (Flash) Gordon work.