Bernard hopkins best wins at Middleweight were over Welterweights?

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  1. Jimmy!

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    His 2 best wins were over welterweights.

    I seen his run and its nothing great about it the only 2 that sticks out is tito and dela hoya both were much smaller.

    He has the record for the longest defense at mw which i would give him credit for.
     
  2. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why call Goldie a WW? He started at 130..why not claim Hops best win was over a 130er instead... :patsch
     
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    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. Noon Saibot

    Noon Saibot Active Member Full Member

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    So are Hagler's. Actually 1 against a Welterweight and 1 against a lightweight. And he's the best mw in history behind RJJ imo
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thomas Hearns is not a Welterweight.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Monzon the MW GOAT

    But you'll find that he too had a few of his quality defenses against HOF welterweights.

    I'm noticing a trend that some forum goers may now just be having their minds blown. Helps to know your history when you talk boxing, friends.
     
  7. seck

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    Tito, Wright and Oscar are first ballot hall of fame, stop comparing apples to oranges.
     
  8. Eel87

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    People forget how good Tito was. He was heavily favoured to beat Hopkins.
    Also Monzon is the GOAT at 160.
     
  9. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins wins over welterweights all had wins at 160 lbs/ middleweight titles and where active Jnr Middles not the same as Brook.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    This has been explained a million times, but people keep ignoring this fact.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly!

    Felix Trinidad was a campaigning middleweight champion who had just destroyed William Joppy, big difference in Golovkin bringing up a Welterweight much less established than either Trinidad or DLH and grant Brooks a chance at the middleweight title when Brooks hasn't fought anyone north of the welterweight division.

    1. Brook is not an established star in boxing.

    2. Brooks hasn't fought anyone past welterweight

    and
    3. Erislandy Lara has been calling Golovkin out and GGG fans keep saying Lara should get in line and work his way up the ladder by fighting middleweights before getting a shot.
    ......and they are ok with Brook being picked as an opponent?
     
  12. Jimmy!

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    pac and may are even better and are ATG does that makes it ok for Golovkin to fight them?
     
  13. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I would say the amount of people that are fully OK with it are in the single figures. Holding the opinion that it isn't as bad as some are making out doesn't automatically mean you think the fight is Ok (I would put myself in this bracket).
     
  14. maxout

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    1. Brook is a HUGE star in the UK where GGG is fighting him.
    2.Brook has fought at 155 before.
    3. Lara's manager just exposed him in a recent interview done by thaboxingvoice. Lara's team never formally reached out to ggg's but GGG JUST REACHED OUT TO LARA, to see if they could potentially fight after kell brook. Lara's manager came up with a million excuses and said they expect multi millions to fight ggg after they made 1 mil fighting canelo.
     
  15. Nay_Sayer

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    Nail, meet Mr. Hammer...