Does any version of Chavez beat Whitaker?

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no. He does not have the right stuff to compete with a southpaw of this caliber
     
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  2. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    About one percent of the population thinks that fight was a draw. It was a tour de force by Whitaker, not even close.
     
    Vince Voltage, Jul 12, 2016
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  3. The Long Count

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    I believe Chavez could win but it don't feel strong enough to pick him. I do believe his fight was closer than originally believed and I do believe he was past prime while Whitaker was peak prime.
     
    The Long Count, Jul 12, 2016
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  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but the vast majority aren't political appointees of the Mexican based WBC.

    One judge had JC winning the first Randall fight.

    Anyone who thinks judges can't be biased is living in a fantasy world.
     
    Saad54, Jul 13, 2016
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Or incompetent.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jul 13, 2016
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  6. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What was your score for the bout? Did you have it a draw yourself?
     
    KuRuPT, Jul 13, 2016
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have done some research.

    According to a website "boxrec.com", it was ruled a majority draw.
     
    Seamus, Jul 13, 2016
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  8. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not the question I asked, don't be obtuse for the sake of being obtuse. The question was:

    1. How did YOU i.e. Seamus score the Chavez vs. Whitaker fight?
     
    KuRuPT, Jul 13, 2016
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  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very true
     
    Saad54, Jul 13, 2016
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  10. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, Whitaker was all wrong for Chavez, and i don't believe the fight was in either best weight.
     
    bcr, Jul 13, 2016
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  11. Seamus

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    I saw it from about the 20th row in San Antonio (a horrible venue for fights). At the time, I thought it to be pretty boring with Whitaker doing more in the rounds he won but not doing 10-8, and Chavez nipping his rounds. Having later watched in on tape, I have genereally scored it for Pete by 1 and 2 rounds.
     
    Seamus, Jul 13, 2016
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  12. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    chavez in place of ramirez 1 would genuinely deserve the decision imo.
     
    kingfisher3, Jul 13, 2016
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  13. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay, but you keep mention this being a draw, and thus Chavez would do better if younger. In fact though, you don't view the fight as a draw. So I'm just trying to nail down your view, are you saying:

    1. If 3 judges could wrongly score that fight a draw, than surely Chavez doing a little better would get him the win

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    2. Chavez would simply beat Whitaker, and bad judging would have nothing to do with it.
     
    KuRuPT, Jul 14, 2016
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I could have been wrong. I had it close to being a draw. Perhaps the esteemed Micky Vann is a better judge than I.
     
    Seamus, Jul 14, 2016
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  15. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, he was a hack.
     
    Saad54, Jul 14, 2016
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