THE TIRE, Training for inside fighting.

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  1. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Comments welcome.....:good
     
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  3. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Bad idea. Too much punishment taken. Forget this nonsense.
     
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  4. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any reasonable comments? Neither boxer was hurt in any way.
     
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  5. Paulie walnutz

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    No... Footwork can't be improved since most people have two left feet. Neural entrainment supports the coordination of movement explaining why some people have no rythm I.e non blacks. Boxing is a sideways sport.
     
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  6. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This training is incredible for balance and inside fighting. Movers/runners hate it at first but come to love it. My guys ask to spar in the tire now.
     
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  8. Paulie walnutz

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    How does that help develop inside fighting skills?
     
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  9. Flatlander

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    I am sorry not trying to be sarcastic but the how to me is obvious.
     
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  10. Paulie walnutz

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    No offense taken! Positive part of the drill is maintence of stabilizing muscles. My concern is that the kids are squared up, there are a lot of fighters who do that. But their open.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mj3-TWvgRnw Charley Burley look at the alignment of his ankles as he is inside. My fear is of the uppercut. A good fighter will take a back step and nail you with the right uppercut, right cross. Also the potential for injury.
     
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  11. Paulie walnutz

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    Flatlander the one thing I've picked up from you is concern for injury that was a very valid concern. For this reason I ordered triangle bags prevent further injury.
     
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  12. captain hook

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    you can´t use that "half body" wide guard when you are inside, you are too open and will get it.. you can do it properly without a tire, in a proper close distance guard.
     
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  13. Paulie walnutz

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    No... You won't shoe shine me on the inside.
     
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  14. Flatlander

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    The two boxers in the video are different in style and experience. Antonio Solorzano, is a former MMA fighter with a 0 - 6 professional boxing record. With very limited amateur boxing experience. Antonio had very little inside boxing skills to begin with, yet he always tried to box inside. Which is one of the reasons he was 0-6 as a pro. He came to us for help. That is when we brought the tire into the ring. Victor Bravo, is a 13 year amateur boxer who has 17 national and international titles. Victor is an excellent outside fighter with amazing counter punching skills. He has power and he is fast. He however did not like fighting on the inside and struggled with pressure fighters. The key to this drill is to make 80% or better of your punches body shots. In my opinion too many boxers and coaches ignore the body. It is too early to tell if this drill helped Antonio since he has since moved on but with Victor the improvement was almost immediate. In his first 130 pound bout at the National Golden Gloves 2016 in Salt Lake City, UT he did something that has seldom happened. He KOed his opponent in the first round with a body shot. He is not the only boxer in our gym who benefited and credited the Spar In The Tire drill for his success. Efrain Sanchez @ 107 KOed his opponent at the nationals in the second round with a body shot. Both these fighters are by nature outside fighters and counter punchers but they said the sparing in the tire gave them the confidence to get inside and go to the body.
     
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  15. Paulie walnutz

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    Pressure fighting very effective, makes sense your gym has a lot champs.
    Flatlander on the wall of the gym where I train there's a bjj poster that says protect your neck at all times.
     
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