Golovkin turning pro at age 24 is a large reason why hasn't move up in weight

HBO and K2 happened. They sold you a man with ZERO meaningful fights as the second coming of Mike Tyson, and some of you bought into, HARD.

 

Yeah, Andre was sat there just waiting for him.


I must have imagined the following:


He'd only fought once in 19 months.

He hadn't made 168 in 2 years.

He'd been injured.

He'd had contractual disputes.

He currently requires 2 tune ups for a big fight against Kovalev.

HBO wanted it to build.

 

Bull**** he wanted Chavez Jr for an easy payday nothing more. Back then he was talking about unifying at 160. Tell that to someone who doesn't know any better because I do. He fought brook because he refused to bow to canelos demands or we would have has canelo ggg in September at 155.

 

Oh dear.

 

Canelo didn't even send a 155 offer.

Your arguments would be much stronger if he had at least tried to make the fight, even on his own terms. Unfortunately, he didn't.

 

Can you not read?

Brook was a last minute replacement to salvage his HBO date.

Is it a good fight? No.

Could he have fought someone better? Under different circumstances, undoubtedly. But within a few days? No.


He couldn't have fought Canelo even if he'd have agreed to 155 which was BS.

Oscar does NOT want the fight.


He didn't duck Ward at SMW. Get real. You're talking about a guy who'd fought once in 19 months and spent 2 years away from SMW. Due to inactivity over the last 4 years, he now requires 2 tune ups before fighting a huge fight against Kovalev. So logic states that he'd have needed at least 1 tune up before committing to a SMW fight against GG if GG had agreed it. Realistically, by the time he'd have been ready, GG would have had too much to lose at MW.

I really can't understand why people believe that Andre was there waiting for him. It's a fantasy.


The only thing I can agree with you on, is that he's in a tough predicament at the moment. If he can't get the fights he wants within the next year or so, I think he should definitely move up.

 

Nobody has sold me anything.

I have my own mind.

Nobody influences me.

If you'd read my post that you quoted, you wouldn't have needed to have made that list of fighters.

 

When he had 1 belt, he was open to fighting guys like Chavez.

Now he's got 3, he's not looking to move until he's obtained the WBO.

Again, people's circumstances change.

You're talking about a period of over 2 years.


Look at how pathetically you try and spin things:

The 155 was complete BS. GG was a fellow MW champ with 2 belts, it was a huge unification, and he was also Canelo's mandatory.

After he got abused, Canelo then changed his stance and said he'd fight GG at 160. But he wanted a voluntary first. Then the the WBC deadlines what he'd known about for months were suddenly deemed totally unreasonable. Then he relinquished the belt to supposedly make negotitations easier. Then what? Did he negotiate? Yes. But not with GG, with Liam Smith instead. Ha! Then after the fight had been signed, Oscar then had brief negotiations where there's only a verbal agreement that they'll look at it as a possibility for next year.

What a joke.

You're seriously trying to sell it to me as though it's GG who has prevented the fight from happening in September?

Ha!

You should either be a lawyer or a GBP employee.

Nobody with an ounce of boxing intelligence is going to buy your BS.


The Brook fight is happening instead of Canelo, because Oscar DOESN'T want it.

Boxing is a ruthless business and Canelo is his "Golden Egg"


Now stop hating and get back to us in the real world.

 

The 155 was BS, but it wouldn't have made any difference even if GG had've jumped at it.

GG is fighting Brook because Oscar doesn't want Canelo to fight him.

It couldn't be more clear.


This is what happens when people are either dim or they debate only on emotion.

 

Told you man - wasting your time, ignore is the best. We are down to about 60 posters on the general any given day - no wonder.

 

GGG and his followers are excuse champions. Fact is the guy has no marque win or opponent !

 

Any 154 160 or 168 fight would do against average competition. Business as usual but to call out a 147 fighter to gain a larger fan base is the move of a cowardly loser. Has to stop blaming Canelo for his misguided cherry picking career with little to no big paydays. Brook is a large payday and a sissy move

 

Hello ... the Canelo fight is not happening because GGG has fans that do not support his PPV events. He could have 10 meaningless belts but truth is he has little bargaining power because he draws little money compared to Canelo. GGG needs a Marque win to even think he can dictate any terms in a Canelo fight. What ever Canelo pulled has no bearing on GGG fighting a welterweight. GGG is a grown man accountable for his actions . He one upped the cherry picking Canelo. Canelo is a brand that generates money. GGG is a champion but presently only a money making prospect taking no risks camping out with his Coleman gear waiting to fight Canelo for a big payday only Canelo can bring him at 160. If he was as bad as he thinks GGG would have taken a risk in 10 years excluding Canelo name

 

This.

I've said it for ages. The weight difference is too big. Either Floyd gives up a ridiculous amount of weight and gets murdered at 160 or Golovkin has to shed a ridiculous amount of weight and shows up mummified.

 

I know mate, I can't help myself.

I always get dragged in.

I'm a sucker for punishment.

Yes, there's been a sharp decline on here over the past few years. It's sad. A lot of people who I used to enjoy to debate with have moved on to other forums. That's what happens when a moron like Shock is allowed to post 28 threads about the same fighter.

I've been posting on the scene quite a lot lately just for a break.

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