What made Floyd so special in the ring?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Jay1990, Jul 23, 2016.


  1. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

    4,805
    148
    Dec 7, 2015
    that he would have humiliated duran at 147( waiting the answer of the mental sick nebur)
     
  2. Neebur

    Neebur Active Member Full Member

    939
    316
    Jun 9, 2016
    Construct a coherent sentence.
     
  3. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

    4,805
    148
    Dec 7, 2015
    it is coherent enough to get your ****py answer every time
     
  4. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,333
    838
    Jul 22, 2004
    Whoa, big shocker there! I couldn't agree more.
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    10,974
    5,432
    Feb 10, 2013
    A boxers talent is only measured by his opposition and Floyds opposition was ****. Pure ****. Yes he had some "names" on his ledger but its not WHO you fight but WHEN you fight them. The best guys Floyd fought always had an asterix by their name when he fought them and every single time that was a direct result of Floyd going out of his way to make sure the deck was stacked in his favor. The biggest fight of his life against the best fighter he ever fought (who was past his prime and injured) he looked ordinary. The second best fighter he ever fought he looked ordinary. Why is it that how good and how talented Floyd looked went up as his level of competition went down? Ike Williams didnt look ordinary against Beau Jack. Duran didnt look ordinary against Leonard or Dejesus. Leonard didnt look ordinary against Hearns or Benitez or even Hagler. Leonard didnt look ordinary against Tendler. I could go on but you get the point.
     
    robert ungurean likes this.
  6. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,204
    93
    Oct 1, 2014
    He's on a short list of fighters born into a boxing family where the generation before him was actually much more talented than the average fighter.

    There's no downplaying that. Cory Spinks is the other notable and he managed to win multiple titles nearly including lineal 160 despite ****py power and only decent athleticism. Tyson Fury is pulling it off right now and the other fighters in his family were nobodies. Even Buster Mathis Jr. managed a title shot and he was an undersized fat guy. It adds an extra layer of ring IQ that's hard to get.

    But unlike those three, Mayweather had much better athleticism (including reflexes) and dedication to the sport. So instead of being Frankie Randall, he had an ATG career because he had boxing programmed into him since birth.
     
  7. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

    12,328
    131
    Apr 23, 2012
    Careful matchmaking made his extraordinary talent look even better. As Klompton rightly says, it isn't WHO you beat but WHEN you beat them.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,558
    Jul 28, 2004
    What was so special about Floyd? Well, he was an Olympic gold medalist, the youngest man, circa 1965, to win the heavyweight title, was the first to regain the title, and was a thoroughly decent, dignified performer in the ring and out...and he was a rated heavy from the fifties till his last fight in 1972.
     
    robert ungurean likes this.
  9. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,505
    2,781
    Apr 15, 2012
    that about covers it
     
  10. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,333
    838
    Jul 22, 2004
    Obviously a transposition good bud, actually Nov. 19(56). :D
    You brought up a great point. After turning pro at 17 after the Olympics in 1952 by 1954-55 until his retirement in late 72 he was Top 10 every year. Has anyone had a run like that in any division? Yeah, let's just hijack this thread in lieu of Mayweather. Not really, let people have their say.
    P.S. My travel loving wife still tells me: "let's visit cousin Mike in Florida and you can stop in and see Red Cobra in Jacksonville" :lol:
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,578
    Jan 30, 2014
    Extraordinary ring IQ and reflexes
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,832
    6,596
    Dec 10, 2014

    Shane Mosely, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao - yes they were not absolute peak, but they were far from shot when he beat them.

    It's not like Oscar and Kostya cleaning up on a shot JC Chavez.

    Sure, Floyd was smart about timing.

    But he had obvious talent - he was more talented than all of the above.

    Maybe it was a weak generation, but he was the best of his generation.

    Look, I despise the guy. But, the talent was obvious.
     
  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,968
    2,411
    Jul 11, 2005
    Incredible talent plus dedication/diligence, resulting in incredible skills and generalship.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,558
    Jul 28, 2004
    Yeah, I was a bit cixelsyd,....I mean dyslexic....
    This "Floyd" business...I mean, referring to a fighter by his first name only...is ok if his name is truly unique....but not in this case.
    Hey, if you can ever arrange a stop in Jacksonville, we have to meet up....we'll fine tune it!
     
  15. Neebur

    Neebur Active Member Full Member

    939
    316
    Jun 9, 2016
    Take your aids somewhere else.