**** Kirk's Championship Boxing Prediction League 2016 ****

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, Jan 9, 2008.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Did you actually see the Dawson-Karpency match? It was a draw, that could have just as easily gone to Dawson, and if you think the Dawson that Karpency fought was even on the same planet as the one that Ward and Pascal fought, then you're brain damaged. Dawson was shot to hell after the Ward match, Stevenson polished him off.

    Karpency was the hardest puncher Clev fought before Kovalev and Fonfara, who he then said were the hardest punchers he'd faced.

    As far as Fonfara goes, he was KO'd by Findley and Smith Jr., his chin isn't very good, big whoop.

    How in the actual **** can I...? Easily.

    Evidently I rate Stevenson higher than you do, don't get it twisted around in your pea brain, Stevenson is a dangerous man whose left hand is lethal, one hardest punchers in the sport, and especially in that division.

    He KO'd him in 3 because they were both southpaws, therefore Karpency didn't have a chance to land a sneaky right hook, and he wasn't awkward for Stevenson to fight, had Karpency not been a southpaw but orthodox, it would have ended just like the Mohammedi match last night.

    And if you thought that Adonis' match against Karpency would be remotely competitive, then follow another sport. There are levels to this, remember? And Karpency isn't on Kovalev, Stevenson or Beterbiev's. Most guys who step in the ring with any of them they're risking not only their health but their lives.

    As far as Stevenson vs. Gvozdyk, don't put words in my mouth, that would be a damn hard match for Oleksandr and I would never seriously believe it would be a walk in the park, don't you realize that I bull**** a lot when hyping guys I like? Do I think he might win, sure, he's got a damn good chance at it.

    Even though I picked Williams Jr. to beat Stevenson, the reality is, he won't, he'll be knocked out cold, but its worth the risk to me, I personally hate Stevenson and root against him any chance I get.

    And you quoted me smartass.
     
  2. PBC is great

    PBC is great Dehydrated Full Member

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    It was a joke defense.
    Gvozdyk is like a 10 fight prospect, Stevenson is a WBC champ and it was VOLUNTARY haha

    Can you get this through your brain?
     
  3. pablinov

    pablinov Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tough match ups this week

    should be good :pop
     
  4. PBC is great

    PBC is great Dehydrated Full Member

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    Alex Brand KO1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Saying Gvozdyk is a "10 fight prospect" is like saying Beterbiev is a 10 fight prospect.
    Loma is younger with even less fights...is he only a prospect too?

    Gvozdyk is a guy who is almost 30, with an olympic medal, who went 9-0 in WSB and who has already beaten ranked fighters.

    If you think comparing Karpency to Rod Salka is a legitimate comparison, then you're as deluded as the guy above you.

    Rod Salka was barely a fringe contender at 130, and was brought up to fight the #1 guy @140...at a WW catchweight!

    To compare that to fighting someone like Karpency, is, frankly, stupid.

    It would be like Stevenson fighting Paul Mendez.

    My point is simple. Karpency was a limited but fringe world level guy when Stevenson fought him.

    He still is.

    My problem with CST is this.
    When Stevenson was fighting him, he was a bum/club fighter/nurse who had not only didn't deserve a match with Stevenson, but was in danger of being legitimately hurt is a Magomedov type way.

    Suddenly, when he drops Gvozdyk, hes the hardest puncher Clev fought outside of Kovalev and who gave Fonfara hell.

    Do you see the discrepancy?
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Who the f*** said he was worth a s***? I didn't, I stated that he has deceptive power according to the people who've faced him, but he's also a glass jawed bum/club fighter, that Gvozdyk outclassed and destroyed with relative ease from the 2nd round on.

    He got lucky just like Boone did with Stevenson, Kovalev and Ward. Gvozdyk was caught off guard nothing more.

    Comparing Loma to Gvozdyk shows how goofy you are, Lomachenko has fought top of the line opponents from his first match and has yet to take a truly soft touch, Gvozdyk on the other hand has been fed a steady diet of garbage up until maybe the Sierra match, Conceicao isn't worth a damn, Mohammedi is decent, but with the exception of Nadjib none of them are on the level of Rocky Martinez, Gary Russell Jr., Orlando Salido, Gamalier Rodriguez or even Romulo Koasicha.

    So yeah he is kind of a 10 fight prospect, mainly because Bob Arum evidently just realized he has him on his roster. However skill wise he's clearly a level above most prospects and he proved that against Karpency.

    Karpency is garbage and Stevenson was a b**** for choosing to face him as his voluntary, no amount of shameless Haymon ****riding spin from you is going to change that.

    The only reason you're coming at me with this bull**** is because you have a massive hard on for Al Haymon and all of his fighters, which I must admit I find peculiar and somewhat disturbing. What kind of weirdo is a devout fan and defender of scummy promoters and managers?

    Now go on and give it your best attempt and argue you're totally unbiased and treat every fighters fairly and never take anyone's side, while we all collectively roll our eyes.

    Stevenson is 28 matches into his pro career and the Lineal Champion and he chose to fight a bum, with zero chance of winning. Gvozdyk is an up and coming prospect 10 fights in, Karpency is the right level of bum he should be facing at this point. There's no way you can spin it to make Stevenson look better.

    And its Abdusalamov jerkoff.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Take this **** off this thread and make a thread in the general to argue the topic.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    How about no.

    He brought it up on this thread, it stays on this thread. If you think this is bad, you've missed a hell of a lot on here in the 2 or 3 years of your absence. This is me being nice.
     
  9. FIGHTER2R

    FIGHTER2R Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    How about show some respect to the thread. This kinda **** should stay in the general.

    One of the best things about this thread has always been that stupid stuff like that stayed out of the thread. If I ever disagreed with Kirk about Cotto being over hyped those arguments would stay in those threads. Not this one.

    At the end of the day it's your life to live how you want and if you want to continue arguments of that nature in this thread, you're free to do so.

    I just kindly ask you show the thread a bit more respect than that.

    The ball is in your court, sir.
     
  11. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Some tough calls this weekend
    Stevenson KO Soro KO Campbell UD Garcia KO Malignaggi UD Frampton UD
     
  12. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sounds fair.

    Better things to be doing than getting drawn into these types of arguments anyway.

    Farmer UD
     
  13. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    More shootings everyday, more terrorist attacks. What the **** is going on?

    But the good thing is - Donald now has a nationwide lead, Clinton's stock continues to drop :nod. And these polls are before the DNC scandals

    What the DNC/DWS did to Bernie is borderline criminal.
     
  14. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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    Tapales KO

    This is such a tough fight to pick Tapales will need the KO or some KD's to win
    I think.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'll continue on the path I set long before you showed back up, if someone says something to me on this thread I go after them in this thread.

    If they say something in another thread I'll keep it on that one.

    So I guess I'm choosing to dribble the ball.