Tyson Fury In 1900?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, and considering Jeffries went 23 rounds with Corbett in 1900, I don't think he's sparking out Fury ... who has a full FOOT in reach, nine inches in height, about 60 pounds in weight ... and, oh yes, a JAB and FOOTWORK and an actual KO punch ... compared to Corbett.
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    His jab and movement were very effective against a gigantic ATG heavyweight champ...

    https://streamable.com/fek3
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :yep
     
  4. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    Fury is such an awkward looking fighter. Effective though.
     
  5. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson's movement would lead to accusations of "fighting like a Gypsy" and his title challenges would be declared no contests and ended early.
     
  6. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury would collapse on his own wayyyy before the 20th round bell. He is not trained for 15 rounds let alone 20. Let alone 20 rounds fought under conditions Jeffries at times had to endure.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    He's not trained to go 15 or 20 rounds against opponents who only throw 8-20 punches per round...? Surely you would agree that boxing decent-paced rounds against active opponents is more taxing than going twice as many low-action rounds?
     
  8. janitor

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    No I wouldn’t actually.

    In both cases the limitation is going to be what is practical over the distance, and in the longer fights what is practical is going to be more taxing.

    I marathon is run at a much slower pace than a 5k, but nobody disputes which is more taxing.
     
  9. BCS8

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    So basically the consensus is that Jeffries MIGHT beat Fury, and everybody else has a bit of a problem?

    I can sort of roll with the idea that Fury never fought a 15-25 round fight and that he'd gas. That said, one could also ask which of those 1900's guys could go 12 rounds with Fury at what would be a (heh) furious pace for that era?

    For the record, I also thought Wlad would smoke him (and think that he still will, in the rematch) but the fact is that Tyson outboxed, out-feinted and out jabbed him and used his mobility to ensure that Wlad didn't land his heavy artillery.

    I don't see any of the early 1900's guys with that sort of skill. What I do see is people trying to swat blows away (which I am told is a lost art) and leaping in like a duellist to land some sort of punch (Willard) which makes me wonder how long they'd last against any sort of modern counterpuncher.
     
  10. mcvey

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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    So because he hasn't done so it means he isn't capable of it? Which boils down to, the only boxers capable of going 20 rds are those that actually did so. The capability to go 20rds magically vanished when fights became scheduled for shorter distances? And by inference, todays fighters are a biologically different species? Glad we got that sorted.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What he is , is a very effective fighter I'm not a fan of his but 23 wins from 23 fights illustrates my point I think.

    BTW .You do come across as though you were the only one in the queue when brains were handed out.
    Some of us have been watching boxing for a considerable time and have engaged in the sport first hand
    .A little less condescension would not go amiss.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jeffries fought one man,[Ruhlin] who was 200lbs in a fight that went 20 rds he had significant size and weight advantages in his other 4, 20rds + fights and a big age advantage in 3 of those.
    This time the shoe would be on the other foot.:think
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No one is punching you in the face and leaning245lbs on you when you are running.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Do you really think that the difference between a 10-round fight and a 20-round fight rivals the gap between a 5K and a marathon? :think

    More broadly, the racing ****ogy just doesn't work. Racing involves more or less non-stop effort, heavyweight boxing generally involves far more intermittent bursts of activity with greater opportunities to rest both during the action and during regular 60-second rest intervals.