Would Ali be too small for today's heavyweight division?

WOAH! You claiming that the others didn't have skills?

Idiot gloriosa. The man with the meanest self punch in the World.


another self punch by you- your quote "ali tonigt was not the guy I had to fight" just underlines you are using a fast fading ali as a yardstick, not "slightly past it" as u claim in the same paragraph.

 

No serious poster will take you seriously when you harp on about the Young fight, where Ali was way past his best, as it should mean something. After Manilla Ali struggled with every worth while opponent. As fighters do when they are way past their best and not very motivated anymore.

I don't agree that there were many opponents Ali didn't look good against. Cooper and Jones, when Ali was still quite young and green, Bonavena when he was still rusty from the long lay-off and Norton. Those were the fights where he looked most ordinary when still anywhere close to his prime and he still won three of them, two by stoppage (yes, he lost FOTC, but even you couldn't seriously argue he looked ordinary in that one, could you?). What a bum.


During that time he made Liston, Patterson, Terrell, Quarry, Ellis, Foreman and many lesser fighters look ordinary. I'm sure you will have excuses for these guys, but of course none for Ali when he was made to look ordinary. I'm not going to waste any more time on that - the other posters can make up their own minds about if you're biased or not.

What I can say is that Wlad has looked far worse than ordinary several times (I mean, who would the F is Purrity?) despite having far less fights against top opposition than Ali had.

It's also a fact that Ali didn't have much trouble with his bigger opponents. Sheeeiiiit, even a zombie version of Ali gave a good account of himself against big and strong Berbick.

With that said, I think the size and relative skill of many of the modern top HWs would present Ali with big problems. I have said that from the beginning in this thread, so I don't know who you think you are arguing with.

I think you have it in you to be a decent poster if you just let go of some of that unreasonable bias. It just makes you look silly. Open up for a good discussion instead.

 

He'd struggle to outjab walking on his hands

 

atsch

You're a nonsense do you realise that.

Ali was 230lbs for the Young fight.

I weigh 230 pounds, just what I weigh when I'm in terrible shape. I'm 34 and I'm telling you what I did was a miracle, going 15 rounds and beating that young man. I've been eating too much pie, too much ice cream. You wouldn't believe the things I do in training." - Muhammad Ali
"The reason I kept ducking through the ropes, seriously, was to take some of the pressure off me." - Jimmy Young

If you aren't knocking Johnson ,it's Louis,Frazier ,or Ali. It's pathetic, and blatantly obvious.

 

I see the 64 - 67 version of Ali ( in 15 round fights ) comfortably beating every HW champion from Holmes up to and including today's present crop.

I don't for one moment buy this nonsense about them cutting off the ring. Ali would still be the draw, and as such he would get the ring size he demanded. Ffs the guy could be up on his toes circling and change direction in the blink of an eye, all these guys would do would make themselves look foolish stumbling into the ropes, and punching thin air.

After 9 or 10 rounds of this they would be no more than target practice for Ali to tee off on for easy points wins, or " possibly " late stoppages.

 

Fixed.

 

:good

 

would modern HWs be too fat, unfit and slow for alis time?

 

Exactly.

 

would...ALI..... be too .............small for todays ........6 round fatties?

this is a pie eating contest yeh?

 

Nope. Prime Ali had perfect body proportions and huge legs.

 

And perfect proportions for his ****,i know you love it

 

:yep

 

Well, Ali said in an interview that he was 6'2". Look at on Youtube Muhammad Ali/Clint Eastwood; both Ali and Eastwood were on a talk show (along with two other guys) and Ali commented on how tall Clint Eastwood was (who was taller than Ali). Ali said that he was the former heavyweight champ and was known as a big guy (6'2", 210) but Eastwood and the other guy were both taller than he was.

Dundee also said Ali was 6'2". In pro sports, the height and weight listings are often times inflated. The UFC is notorious for inflating fighters' heights.