The best HW never to hold the lineal title.

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Please answer the question.
     
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    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I did. What the f*ck is wrong with you guys?

    Why don't you recognize Vitali even though RING magazine did, and you're using RING as your criteria for who was champ and who wasn't?
     
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    Brigg was never recognised as Ring champ but was recognised as lineal champ. Jones was never recognised as lineal champ but was recognised as Ring champ. The two are not one and the same.

    Forget my label. Out of all of those who never beat a lineal champion, nor won a match featuring 1vs2, who is the best ever HW in your opinion.
     
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    You have to figure that some of the black contenders denied a shot by the colour bar, would have been lineal champions had they fought for the title.

    This alone would be enough to propel them to the top of the list.
     
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    I haven't seen many of them fight.

    Wills strikes me as a Ruiz type fighter but clearly a higher level. Stands to reason he'd be a top 5 mainstay in any era.

    Langford has the talent but someone of the stature of Tyson being a counter puncher in the pocket, gonna be hard to succeed against more modern fighters.

    McVey was a bit of a wrecking ball who could be found wanting if the opponent stood up to his power and there's been plenty of those types through the years.

    I don't low enough about Godfrey, Jackson or Jeannette to comment on their styles.


    Any of those would you make a favourite over Vitali in a 12 round bout?
     
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    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've got Vitali.
     
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    Norton has a good style to beat Vitali though so it's got me thinking.
     
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    I wouldn't count on his chin holding up.
     
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    It held up against Ali and Holmes. Just not the brutish sluggers like ****ey and Foreman.
     
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    I don’t think that it is important to be honest.

    The questions that I think we should be asking are:

    A. Who has the best resume of the fighters who never held the lineal title?

    B. Why did they never hold the lineal title?
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Wasn't Vitali-Sanders #1 vs #2? I could've sworn it was, hence the lineal title?
     
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    No, Byrd was number 2.
     
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    No, Byrd was number 2.
     
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    But I'm not talking greatness. I'm literally talking best. Most everyone being discussed have legitimate reasons for not gaining lineage.

    Spoon got the short end of a close decision
    Norton was denied a fight with Spins
    Vitali wouldn't face his brother
    Colour line was drawn.
    Tua just wasn't good enough.

    Not sure how that relates to the thread question though.
     
  15. kingfisher3

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    :lol:


    i'll go with jackson, if purely h2h then vitali.