Did Vitali Klitschko improve in his 2008 comeback?

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Well there were exactly FOUR Yes votes on the poll, and I'm guessing that 2 or 3 of those belong to him or some rendition of....
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah right? Lewis chooses to retire instead of rematching a man who's face he cuts to shreads, but Holmes continues to hang on to a title rather than rematching a 15 fight Witherspoon who might have edged him on fair scorecards. Yet somehow the former is the guilty one of "ducking".
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    Bingo.
     
  4. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree, I think his opposition post comeback was better, or least his win column.

    Adamek, Peter, Arreola, Johnson, Solis are his best wins, outside of win over Sanders.
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think Vitali was better, he just refined his style to suit his older age however against Chisora the signs were showing that the well was running dry.

    And infact Vitali did the exact thing Lewis did, he knew he was getting old so he retired on his own terms.
     
  6. mr. magoo

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    I think his opposition remained the same personally.. Hide, Sanders, K.Johnson, Williams, Purity, etc are all on close par with Peter, Arreloa, Johnson, Adamek, etc. The main difference for me is that the post retirement version of Vitali was taken the distance or to the later rounds on more occasions in his comeback and seemed to be less busy at times as well.. I see no improvements either way in comp or ability.
     
  7. mcvey

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    You got it!:good
    The man is a *****.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Surely you don't want to count Solis? The guy retired injured!:patsch
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees him as an abdsurdity.
     
  10. HerolGee

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    almost the same, Vitali went out facing nobodies unworthy of title shots, Lewis desotryed the face of the next number 1 challenger inside halftime.
     
  11. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd agree with that, he was arguably the best heavyweight in the world before he retired The same can be said after he came back for a brief period, before his Brother started to out shine him.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    I guess the other way to look at this poll for those voting NO is Vitali " past his prime " easily defeated several top contenders, so just imagine how good he might have been in his true prime years which likely coincided with the years he was out of boxing.

    The very large heavies tend to mature a bit later.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think we saw his prime.. And that was the version from about the Herbie Hide fight of 99 to the Danny Williams bout of '04.. He was 27 to 33 years of age during that stretch and had between 24 to 37 bouts, including meetings with some of his best opponents and not to mention, a physical advantage over about 99.999% of the division. I don't see how he would have improved much beyond the age of 33, even if he had stayed active rather than disappear for four years.
     
  14. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He learned not to quit after Byrd, so his mental prime came somewhere after that.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Maybe. We don't know how he would have reacted if suffering the same sort of injury again.. Incidentally, I'm one of the few people who don't judge him as harshly for the Chris Byrd loss as some others do. In fairness, he had been fighting with that torn rotator cuff for several rounds, yet still keeping ahead of Byrd on the scorecards. Its fair to award Byrd the win but I never felt he truly "beat" Vitali Klitschko.