Which linear champions would lose to Ken Norton ?

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    During Ken's best years circa 1973-76.


    Here are a few from me to get you started -


    Leon Spinks
    Michael Spinks
    Tommy Burns
    Shannon Briggs
    Jack Sharkey
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I can see the following as being possibilties
    Floyd Patterson
    Marvin Hart
    James Bradock
    Ingo Johnanson
    James Douglas
    Ezzard Charles
    and even Larry Holmes if Ken were prime.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Rulest matters here, a lot, are the fighters fighting under Ken's rules or is he visiting them? Depending on that answer will define my Jack JOhnson advert, for example.

    Corbett, Hart, Burns, Willard, Tunney, Schmeling, Carnera, Braddock, Charles, Leon, Michael, Buster, Moorer, Rahman.
     
  4. 2piece

    2piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The usual suspects in mose questions like these. I think he could give Lennox and Holyfield hell though. Larry Holmes too.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    I think that he would have a good chance against any of the technicians, and most of the smaller champions, but the punchers would generally take him apart.
     
  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Reviewing the list of fighters provided.....you can see why "experts" say a boxer becomes 15% better once he is champion. Norton just didn't have the chance to really become better as "champion", i.e. the many times normal process of fighting a few lesser "good" fighters to get use to wearing The Crown.
     
  7. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd like to have seen a fight with him and Shannon Briggs.
     
  8. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd beat Old Foreman.
     
  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leon Spinks, Briggs
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I listed my group of guys as " possibilities." And while I wouldn't pick him to beat any of those men with any real certainty, I think he'd have a chance. Drawing one name from that list, Floyd Patterson was a man who lacked the sort of size and physicality needed to bully Norton and nor was he the type of boxer like Ali who could out point him. It's also worth mentioning that Floyd had durability problems of his own. Jim Braddock was tough as nails, but again wasn't a huge puncher and who's talent was quite limited if we're honest... Buster Douglas had an incredible night against Mike Tyson, but had far more nights where he was less than spectacular.. Larry Holmes was in the peak of his prime when a 35 year old Norton fought life and death with him over fifteen rounds to a close decision... Would things have leaned in nortons favor say five years earlier ?? Maybe.. I think Ken was a terrific fighter who had the misfortune of bad Timing and circumstance.. Had he taken over the division after Marciano retired, he might well have reigned for four or five years until Sonny came around.
     
  11. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Muhammed Ali is the only one you could say with absolute certainty.

    I think he has a chance against every other lineal champion as well, with the punchers being the biggest task.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Obviously Ali.

    I'd expect Patterson, Ingo, Briggs, Rahman, Douglas, Spinks and Walcott to all lose to him as well.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    That's a good list there. He and Holmes would be life and death with Norton peak, a very gruelling fight. Ingo would be interesting. I'd take him over Leon Spinks and Michael as well. Could he beat Tunney with his pressure? I'd take him over Rahman. He'd be a chance against Moorer and Briggs too. Many possibles.
     
  14. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    65 years old foreman kos norton,get out of here
     
  15. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Fitz, Corbett, Johnson, Willard, Tunney, Sharkey, Carnera, Schmeling, Charles, Walcott, Patterson, Moorer and the Spinks brothers.