I see fear in Santa cruz's eyes

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  1. TMH

    TMH Active Member Full Member

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    Thank you- that's reasonable for the level of fighters. Won't be able to watch it though.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i think its just a lazy eye.
     
  3. RC31

    RC31 RiGod Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl
     
  4. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    LSC hits and ducks like a girl. He fought an absolute tomato can to put on a good performance on a big ppv and couldn't hurt the guy. Let's see how he goes against Frampton, one midget from 122 he is not scared of fighting.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    lol he didn't stop glass jawed 5'5 former Super Bantamweight Abner Mares did he?
     
  6. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LSC is not a puncher. Maybe he wears Frampton down but I doubt it. I think Frampton is going to give him either a boxing lesson or score a stoppage.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I'm thinking the same thing. How quickly people forget, Kiko Martinez busted him up, and rocked him a few times. LSC doesn't have an iron chin, its just that he's mostly faced non punchers.

    And Kiko seemed to take LSC's punch a lot better than he did Quigg's, and well Frampton took Quigg's shots pretty well.
     
  8. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    I just don't see why LSC is such an overwhelming favorite. He is taller and has reach on Frampton but he isn't more skilled. Frampton might also weigh more come fight night, so LSC isn't necessarily the bigger man. Also, Santa Cruz doesn't have the greatest footwork: watch his fight with Seda and see that he isn't very good at cutting the ring off. So really LSC has better stamina and length on Frampton but that is it.

    Martinez stood right in front of him, that is why LSC beat him. I don't expect Frampton to do that. I think this fight will resemble the Gonzales Jr. - Frampton fight without the flash knockdowns.
     
  9. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You mean former Bantamweight LSC didn't stop former Super Bantamweight Mares ?

    But he did stop Kiko in 5 rounds, unlike Frampton.
     
  10. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch was " out skilled " by every opponent.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Same thing I'm thinking, I think Carl will constantly turn him and give him weird angles throughout the match, never giving Leo a chance to plant his feet to get off.

    People are making way to much out of the size differential, after all look at the difference for Carl's last fight in the US.
    https://usatboxingjunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/gonzalez.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

    Now compare.
    http://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/frampton8.jpg
     
  12. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Different styles; Froch was/is not a pressure fighter. Froch at the very least could punch, unlike Santa Cruz. Also some of the guys on his ledger were not more skilled than him (like Abraham for example).
     
  13. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Quigg dusted Kiko in 2 and Frampton beat Quigg so whats
    your point?
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Framptom doesn't catch LSC he's going to see the most punches that he's ever seen coming at him. LSC and Frampton are pretty good boxers so I expect a chess match.
     
  15. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frampton can crack but he isn't busy enough and he'll be eating a lot of leather tomorrow night. Crafty guy though and I'm glad the fight is happening.