Léo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton & Miguel Ángel García vs. Elio Rojas RBR

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  1. Sin City

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    Well people thought Floyd lost to Castillo, because of compubox... I guess it's fair, no?
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Name a greater FW debut.

    ...and before anyone says Pac vs. Barrera I, bear in mind that wasn't his debut at the weight. :nono

    He fought Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov and was dropped in the 4th but got up to stop the Kazakh journeyman in the next round..
     
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  3. Nuro

    Nuro Active Member Full Member

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    Nope
     
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  4. Sin City

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    Of course it is.. it's the same people you just spoke of that went off of compubox to justify a Castillo win. And you were probably one of them. Lol
     
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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    To use your own words.
     
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  6. Sin City

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    He's frickin irish, yes I agree!
     
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  7. Ricdog

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    Defense is not ring generalship. It is a matter of controlling the pace, geography of the ring, and maintaining a comfortable position for one's style of fighting.

    Broner had decent defense against Porter (he avoided plenty of shots and was never hit too cleanly), but no one would say he had ring generalship. Similar thing happened hear. Frampton had good defense, but he certainly wasn't close to taming Santa Cruz.
     
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  8. Daveba

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    :deal:happy

    some people on here will never give frampton the credit he deserves! higher quality work from carl.
     
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  9. Nuro

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    I never use compubox and I hate the fact it is constantly used as a method to justify results. Very deceiving.
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    When did I say they were the same thing? Pay attention. I cited them as two additonal, SEPARATE factors in scoring along with clean punches landed and effective (being the key word) aggression.
     
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  11. HamburgBuam

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    This is worse than my Ward-Barrera scorecard. :yikes
     
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  12. Sin City

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    What was your Ward-Barrera scorecard?
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Crazy thing is, after the co-feature this didn't have the look of a thread destined to reach over a thousand replies. It still had well under 500. (main events - even good ones, generally generate in the vicinity of 400ish)

    This was a good enough fight to, from ring walks on, bolster this up over that mark on its own with 600 (and counting).

    Imagine the undercard hadn't been mostly shit!
     
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  14. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some people use it to score fights or justify scores in fights. It's like any stat in sports, on its own its largely meaningless. It's there to provide a quick bit of insight by the commentators when talking us through the fight.
     
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  15. The Akbar One

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    I never thought Frampton would be the one to expose Santa Cruz. That high volume doesn't mean sh!t if you aren't landing punches. Those replays between rounds were comical with hardly a thing landing. Frampton should avoid Russell Jr.
     
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