Léo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton & Miguel Ángel García vs. Elio Rojas RBR

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  1. Sin City

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    So if Frampton won 5 of them is it possible to give the other 7 rounds to LSC since there were really alot of close rounds that could have gone either way, throughout the fight? Maybe?
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WAR JACKAL!! :bowdown
     
  3. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I gave LSC rounds 4, 6 and 11.

    1, 7 and 10 were close, so yeah although my card looks wide I could see a draw, but you'd have to be looking for it imo
     
  4. Ducklerr

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    8-4 it was :nod
     
  5. Sin City

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    Sometimes a single flush jab, or straight right hand can sway a round in your favor in a tight round, imo.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have to re-watch this fight. I thought Frampton won a close but clear fight(though I scored it off the top of my head), but so many people are calling a robbery, and it's not just the Mexican posters.
     
  7. Sin City

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    Yo.......... is this the forgotten ducky?
     
  8. Sin City

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    It was close, it's worth a rematch. I don't see a robbery though.
     
  9. Moanamchara

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    The punch stats are ****. It is obvious they just click away even when Fighters are catching alot of the punches on their gloves. If punch stats were calculated by ****ysts going over slow motion video of the rounds and released after the fight it would be more legit. Not some morons clicking away.
     
  10. Ducklerr

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    Gone but never forgotten :deal
     
  11. Ricdog

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    Yes, you implied that they were separate, but as far as I know...defense is not officially recognized as a winning scoring category. So I simply put it as a sub-category of ring generalship.

    You said that it is often "neglected", but I think its really a matter of how one views the purpose of defense in a fight. From what I understand defense is seen as a way for a boxer to achieve scoring criteria. While you appear to think of it as a criteria itself.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    It absolutely is a criterion.

    - clean effective punching.
    - effective aggression.
    - ring generalship.
    - defense.
     
  13. Ducklerr

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    :nod
     
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  15. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    Hmm, well I guess it is. Just looked it up. Seems kinda vague on how one would apply it to a fight, so i'd like to know how judges are suppose to look for this criteria.