Léo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton & Miguel Ángel García vs. Elio Rojas RBR

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  1. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    But too be fair, Santa Cruz's face was even cleaner than Framptons. Not the look of someone who just had "quality punches" landed on him.

    Personally even though I thought Frampton had "sharper" punches, they didn't appear to be any more damaging than Cruz's at times. And Cruz appeared to move him more.
     
  2. Sin City

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    besides the second round wobble, I seen LSC move Frampton around the ring many times with his punches.
     
  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eyyyyyy! :happy
     
  4. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    Pretty much. Especially near the end of the fight. Even though Frampton was suppossibly landing the "cleaner shots". Santa Cruz was appearing to snap his head back and move him with more force.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Is the boxer in question intelligently defending themselves well, yes or no.
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Leo fugged up taking this fight on the eastcoast... made no sense for him as defending champ.

    But the result they wanted happened... on to the next one
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    The result they wanted would have been for LSC to win, but he didn't because Frampton is just too good for him. But true to form one judge tried to rob Frampton. The two who didn't were the Americans.
     
  8. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Don't know how anyone can score that for Santa Cruz.
     
  9. RC31

    RC31 RiGod Full Member

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    The middle two are horrificly vague though, IMO. In a jury sport what you want is specific and to-the-point criteria.
    I think many of the horrible scores are because of the middle two criteria.
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Current political boundaries do not alter the fact that Frampton was born in Ireland and is thus, IRISH.

    You sound like one of those fools who have Andy Murray British when he wins, and Scottish when he's beaten.
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    England≠Britain and English≠British :patsch

    How on earth you could make a case that Scotland is not part of Britain is beyond me. You follow Brexit at all, mate? :lol:
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    They aren't really that vague; they just require putting in a little critical thinking beyond just counting punches landed and observing when either guy is wobbled.

    Scoring isn't for lazy-minded people.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Both fighters made a great account of themselves last night. I always knew Frampton was skilled but just felt Santa Cruz was going to be too big for him. I'm now a fan of Carl Frampton he has the goods.

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  14. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well that explains my scorecards :think
     
  15. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Land masses don't define nations. Is everyone born in Seoul North Korean? This isn't up for debate.