Remember when I said Fury was far more likely to be on PEDs then Joshua?

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  1. Blobby Nelson

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    I think UKAD know a bit more than you David. You're clueless about the whole process, as proven in this thread.

    Do you think they suspended him for fun? I realise you're a sweaty sock but try and use your 4 brain cells for 5 minutes.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    What happens between February 2015 (the date of the failed urine test) and 24th June 2016 ?
     
  3. Blobby Nelson

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    Have UKAD confirmed it was Feb 2015 Unforgiven? There's lots of ways to drag out the process. Tony Thompson is a good example of it.

    Honestly, you'd have to be a moron to think UKAD would preceded to charge someone if there is a B sample that is inconclusive.

    He has had his suspension lifted because he's claiming it was a contaminated product.

    Stop letting the lies from the Fury's cloud your judgment.
     
  4. Blobby Nelson

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    The standard defence from a guilty party is aggression. Lance Armstrong was a classic example of it.
     
  5. Daviddee1983

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    UKAD have not said they failed a drug test. They have said there was a presence in their Urine.. Go read the whole research report I have kindly provided.. Thats if you can read it. There is some very big words.. They were charged and UKAD followed their procedures.. This was leaked before due diligence was complete. There is no way a Urine test will hold up against a Blood test... Try and understand.. A Urine test is pretty much useless with getting a accurate reading for Nandralone use... Could put money on Kellie Maloney will have crazy Nandralone levels because he/she will probably ne taking estrogen to change to female.. If He/she took a Urine test it would be higher.. Not a drug cheat then or getting any advantage
     
  6. Blobby Nelson

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    If the blood test supercedes the urine test and the blood test has come back negative, why have they been charged David?
     
  7. Daviddee1983

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    Just to clarify Lance Armstrong never failed a drug test..100's of pass tests.. It was all hearsay from people competing with him... Only time I have seen someone on one hand admit it then another hand claim innocence but not wanting to continue a 1 sided case.. Whether he cheated or not is irrelevant they had no physical evidence and was just a witch hunt
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I read somewhere it was February 2015. If UKAD haven't confirmed the date then they should.

    I'm not listening to the Fury lies or doubting that he used PEDs. I'm simply saying the process is open to corruption. It's not transparent enough.

    I'm against testing for drugs anyway. I think athletes should be left alone, and not subjected to p!ss tests and 365-days-a-year-monitoring of whereabouts and all the other silliness this "anti-doping" thing entails. That goes for people in most other pursuits and professions too.
    On the other hand, they get involved in the sport knowing the situation and agree to those rules, so I don't excuse them either.
     
  9. Blobby Nelson

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    Again, you show how clueless you are. Lance did fail a test.
     
  10. Daviddee1983

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    Listen carefully.. They are charged with the substance found in a Urine test... Due diligence should of took place and in the case on Nandralone it is known that you get false positive tests with Urine test.. I can guarantee this will not hold up and UKAD will get sued for a lot of money..

    Drug testing is very subjective at times due to differences in ***/weight/height/***ual orientation/Diet and lifestyle to name a few.. Everyone is different so their body reacts differently.. We put catalysts in our bodies every day. There has been proof that putting a placebo in can even change results..
     
  11. Barry Smith

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    For things that naturally occcur in your body, like nandralone and testosterone, the limit is already set unnaturally high. What this basically tells athletes is you can use them, but don't take the p*ss. It's kind of the unwritten rule in modern sports.

    So to fail a test nowadays you have to be juiced to the gills. There is way of dressing this up I'm afraid.
     
  12. Daviddee1983

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    Go find me the failed drugs test..
     
  13. Blobby Nelson

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    The International Cycling Union has defended its actions after it was confirmed that Lance Armstrong returned test samples with traces of corticosteroids four times during the 1999 Tour de France.

    It had previously been known that the former US Postal rider, who in January confessed to drug use, tested positive for the substance once, but the UCI has confirmed a leaked internal memo stating that there were actually four positive tests.

    At the time, the UCI accepted that the traces came from a cream used to treat saddle-soreness after Armstrong produced a the****utic use exemption (TUE) certificate. He admitted this year the medical certificate had been backdated.
     
  14. Daviddee1983

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    Not true can be numerous reasons for these being high.. But I do agree about it being very hard to fail a drug test thats why clear ones like Joshua and Klitscho get away with it.. In saying that there is no drug test failed here.. Fury was above the Nandrolone limit in a urine sample.. As he had 9 that year the likelyhood is that it is a false positive. Even further enhanced by the passed blood test...
     
  15. Daviddee1983

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    Failed samples again no failed drugs test was ever proven..He backed down still claims innocense