Would u agree: Vitali was fading quick against Lennox

The biggest (and perhaps the only) flaw Lewis carried with him, more or less throughout his career, was complacency.

He was not always motivated and was easily distracted. I doubt he was in the best shape he could have been, for a good number of his contests; only putting himself together properly for what he considered to be worthy opponents and big fights.

IMO, his poor preparation and conditioning for Rahman 1 played a significant part in the cause of his KO defeat.


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That's a thoughtful post :good

 

Thank you - Interesting to recall that it was a KO 5 defeat for Lewis :think

 

Imagine if Rahman hadn't given him a rematch! The KO5 threads would be unbearable.

 

So true! Especially since Lewis was 2 points ahead on all three scorecards...:thumbsup

 

:think How strange.

Herol is no longer on this thread like white on rice.

 

FLOP mate.

that's 4 flops in a row. See, don't set yourself up for flop next time.

 

Quote me where I have said conditioning doesn't fluctuate. Otherwise shut up with the deflection.

There are 43 references for lewis conditioning being at least adequate before vitali, plus the one against vitali where his conditioning was adequate to stop vits in less than half the distance. That's 44 cases against your presumption. Pick from that A or B yourself..


At this point,it seems you've achieved something with your constant diversion tactic because I cant recall if you were ducking a question I asked you way back

 

BCS, ur arguments are so pyssweak, a possible 1 against definte 44, that I now feel sorry for you and have therefore decided to help you write a meaningful argument that you cant do yourself.

Here are 5 generously given points to help you prove that "lewis gassed" -

1. Lewis was 37 years old, past prime and therefore his conditioning wasn't what it used to be, however much he trained the science of diminishing lung power over 30 proves it.

2. Vitali was prime at 31 so had the advantage of prime youth by far.

3. Lewis had an eye on retirement, so wasn't committed to training

4. Lennox was training for some weakling called Johnson? So he had trained poorly tihking he was facing a weak contender anyway.

5. Lewis didn't take vitali seriously in training, seeing as Vits -
a. was a replacement contender
b. was historically a weak titlist, having had a wbo title for a short while at a time when that title was still largely worthless
c. was holder of the "international belt", a belt for upcoming prospects trying to enter contention, at the ripe age of 31.
d. had a terrible resume by title standards
e. had been stopped as a superHW fairly recently by a MW/LHW, albeit a talented one.

 

Can we then assume that you are picking B) "Past conditioning is not a guarantor of present conditioning"?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe here, where you claim a historical precedent of alleged consistency as somehow being highly relevant to the current discussion:

Here's the essential problem with your stance.

You want to tear down the Klitschkos at any cost.

At the same time you want to prop up Lewis.

So you're spazzing out between admitting that Lewis was not properly conditioned for the Klitschko fight (as can be SEEN by the FACT that he was very tired) and denying that fact. You're walking on a tightrope, naked, painted purple, and everybody is laughing at you.

Get a grip.

 

why would I not pick it? you've not explained why yet.

if you could do that next, it would be appreciated. I cant see why.

exactly, clearly and blatantly you don't know, because you think being fit enough to keep winning is the same thing as consistent same fitness.
FLOP MATE -

-but I can see why you choose to keep backing up your flopped argument - because the alternative is to admit you are wrong. You don't want to do that for sure about a Kbro.

how do you figure that, seeing as I am using the evidence of 43 NON KLITSCHKO FIGHTS to back me up.
ITS YOU who is using the sole klitschko fight as evidence - you want defend vitali against overwhelming evidence.

I only say he won tko6, that all. you have problem with the fact not me. I have no need to prop up a win. Its ONLY you who has a need, to prop up Kbro.
Everything is the opposite of what you write!

in your opinion, Joker. your opinion, as you can see doesn't bother me its 1 against 43.

why don't you abandon your nutjob argument and use the 5 solid ones I gave you?

 

Lewis was at his all time heaviest and obv almost had the pipe and slippers looked out but his massive shots wer taking effect Vitali could keep taking they shots ..now way ..what abt the uppercut lennox landed oooffffftt 2 real heavys ther

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Wow this herol guy is a spastic

FLOP MATE

 

I see where you are coming from Herol, but i honestly believe a damaged eye is far more likely to be closed the more it is hit, rather than pop out.

In fact I would bet a lot of money on it.