Jack Dempsey v Michael Spinks

Is not necessarily about time/years though.
It's about improvements.

 

Hi Seamus.
On and on...atsch
Even with eras aside at ,say, 185 Dempsey would be all over him.
Now back to my mantra: Let's do an 85 Dempsey against a 23 Spinks.
Well, lets just do a 23 Dempsey against a 23 Spinks or lets just do a 85 Dempsey against a 85 Spinks?
Eddie Gregory was still a better fighter than Spinks!!
IMHO, with so many saying that so and so is overrated on this forum, I'd have to include Michael in that lot. A great fighter but IMO I think the Holmes fights inflate his rep.

 

You recall correctly. Assuming Spinks wasn't petrified, he still losses but likely gets KO's in the mid round as opposed to the first round.

 

To be brutally honest with you, I think that some of Dempsey’s victims would have to be installed as betting favourites over Spinks.

Willard and Sharkey at the very least, and there might be an argument for Fulton.

 

I'd say in Johnson's case it's a weaker argument since hie ability to take a punch did not improve with skill while Louis learned to carry his right hand higher and Dempsey went from a starving pick up fighter to a well trained, consistant fighting machine ..

 

Louis' defensive fault in the first Schmeling fight was not bringing his left hand back to the guard position after jabbing, thus leaving himself open to Max's counter right- cross.

 

I'd pick the Sharkey, that fought Dempsey ,and beat Godfrey and Wills to beat Spinks.

 

Yup I'm a Dempsey fan but I am open about it. Feel free to show any examples of my bias towards him causing me to lack objectivity.I will always be happy to debate them.:good

 

Might I ask why you feel that Spinks is a prohibitive favourite over Willard and Sharkey?

He clearly doesn’t have a deeper resume at heavyweight, and he arguably doesn’t even have a better single win.

He doesn’t even hold any physical advantages over them.

This means that while it is possible to make a case for him, a detailed stylistic argument would be your only option.

 

Again correct .. I was being distracted when writing the other night .. still, that leaves more room for correction than ability to take a punch ..

 

Maybe the question here would be better formed thusly: is there anybody who would pick Spinks as the outright favourite over Dempsey, and if so, why?