70s Foreman vs Vitali Klitschko

HerolGee,

A few questions.

How come Geroge Foreman who was 25 quickly gassed out vs Ali? George looked slow and out of gas, with limited poise and smarts.

How come, Foreman, age 27 was rocked by Ron Lyle in round one, floored by Lyle in round 4, hurt in round 5, looked slow as and tired? Yes he won, but this suggests he would not last long vs Vitali who was bigger, hit as hard, and had a much better chin in comparison to Lyle.

How come, Foreman, age 28 was floored and gassed vs a light hitting, Jimmy Young. Foreman collapsed in his dressing room, suggesting had this fight been a little longer, he's knock out. Vitali was not only very mobile, he kept his stamina and power late.

I look forward to reading your answers.

That was the older I'm fighting at a slower pace, Foreman. Moorer, a blow-up light heavyweight with a shaky chin was coasting here. Fore some reason when he had the fight in the bag, he stared down the barrel of a gun and got hit.

Put Vitali in with that same Foreman and he embarrasses George.

Remember, this is the Foreman that lost to Morrison by being out boxed, had a close call vs Savereese, should have lost on points to Schultz, a lost to Briggs.

 

Herol needs to get his eyes checked so that he can see that Sanders punched faster, straighter and more accurately than Foreman. If Sanders had problems in landing on Vitali, then Foreman would have greater problems in doing so.

 

No one is talking about that Foreman being matched here. I would expect any great fighter to embarrass him.

However if that advanced age he can keep his power till the late rounds, he can do it in his prime obviously.

When Foreman lands and hurts Vitali how do you expect Vitali to respond?

 

Sanders didn't have problems. The first round he serious hurt him. The third round he forced Vitali into a toe to toe exchange.

 

Are folks creating a hybrid of young and old Foreman now?

:good That's OK.

Old Foreman lost to Briggs.

Vitali put Briggs into ICU in one of the most brutal, one-sided, cold blooded butcheries I have ever seen.

:deal

 

My man Sanders did pretty well, all things considered. But if you have watched as much Sanders as I have, you will realise that yes, he had problems landing on Vitali as consistently as he landed on other heavies. Maybe by the standards of other sluggers he landed well on Vitali, not so much by his own standards.

 

I have no wish to see your failed perspective in which a 38 year old neverman retiree is faster straighter more accurate than a prime young ATG.. The day I move to planet K is the day I leave this life in utter despair.

foreman stopped loads of people with a "vitali-level" chin.

Sanders didnt when prime, nor when he was retired old and lost any speed he had.

If you meant fatser and not "faster", thats forgiven.

 

Sanders had extremely quick feet too. That's part of the reason he could do kamikazee attacks and usually get away with it.

 

I can't see why anyone would use Foreman's meeting with Schultz, Savarese, or Briggs in a head to head argument where "prime" is concerned. By the time he fought the above men, he was getting dangerously close to 50 and reduced to fighting about once a year. That said, I still think Vitali is a potentially bad match for Him. George wouldn't have the advantages that he was so accustomed to having against an opponent like Klitschko, and his tendency to fade later in fights would be a big problem here.

 

He really did look impressive in his earlier prospect-fringe days. Most people only seem to remember ( or have only seen ) the later version which often showed up out of shape and who was past prime. He actually had a lot of mobility and decent boxing skill to complement those fast hands and powerful shots... A very badly mismanaged fighter if there ever was one.

 

yes he was a solid prospect for sure, but he couldnt cut it at world level.

 

What I meant was he landed just as much on Vitali as he did on Wlad, it's just that Vitali is made of sturner stuff.

 

That was the older I'm fighting at a slower pace, Foreman. Moorer, a blow-up light heavyweight with a shaky chin was coasting here. Fore some reason when he had the fight in the bag, he stared down the barrel of a gun and got hit.

Put Vitali in with that same Foreman and he embarrasses George.

Remember, this is the Foreman that lost to Morrison by being out boxed, had a close call vs Savereese, should have lost on points to Schultz, a lost to Briggs.

Luf,

Foreman lacked poise and stamina in his first career. Just look at the films. You'll see it's true. In his comeback, Foreman was much more relaxed in the ring, fought at a more measured pace and also slower.

Vitali wasn't easy to hit. Even Lewis said so. And he had an iron chin. No man won more than 3 consensus rounds on Vitali. He was a mobile big man with good reflexes, an astute judge of distance, an active jab, and countering ability.

Foreman in his 90's didn't have the same type of power. He took many guys the distance, and when he did land on many it often wasn't enough to floor them, let alone stop them.

So Vitali would take it just fine like many others did with more suspect chins.

LOL at HerolGee A.K.A. Mr. Flop's replies. He can't even answer my questions!

 

When Foreman lands on Vitali how do you expect Vitali to respond?