Sonny vRocky's Foes?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    In the wake of another Liston v Marciano thread I thought I would match up the best of Marciano's opposition as they were when they fought Rocky and pit them against a prime Sonny.
    So we have :
    Joe Louis 37
    Archie Moore 38 according to him ,40 according to his Mother
    Joe Walcott 37/38 x2
    Ezzard Charles 32/33 x2
    Roland Lastarzax2
    Don ****ell

    How does Sonny do against them?
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Honestly I think Liston beats them all and in fairly short order.. Especially the renditions of those men that we're talking about.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I would hate to see what Cokkell's face would look like after Liston was done with it.
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Beats all of them except ****ell.
     
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  5. janitor

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    Liston is a guy who should have been better than Marciano on paper, but in the end wasn’t for whatever reason.

    Marciano had a better list of opponents (I am taking Ali out of the equation), and he somehow walked away with tidier results against them.

    Now Liston could theoretically go 49-0 against Marciano’s opposition, but I do not take it for granted that he would.

    He might drop a fight early in his career as he did against Marty Marshal, or he might lose the plot after he gained possession of the title, and end up losing it to somebody he shouldn’t.
     
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  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Walcott is the only one who could put up a good fight against Liston if not pull it off.
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree, though that would be the fight that Liston would be most motivated for.
     
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  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I never really count Walcott out for any fighter. He was too tricky, unorthodox, and smart as a fighter. He had potential to be the greatest heavyweight of all time imo if he was handled better.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    The question is how does Sonny do against the Marciano opponents I named? I don't take it for granted that Marciano beats all Liston's early opposition and many believe he didn't beat all his own ,the first Lowry and Lastarza fights were bitterly disputed.
     
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  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    49-0 43 KO's...Jesus...get over it guys!!!
     
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  11. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Talk all you want..."woulda...coulda..shoulda". Marciano had the **** beat out of him by JJW in the title fight in 1952...knocked down...cut...blinded for 3 or 4 rounds...comes back and wins the title with the best right hand ever thrown!!
    Second fight with Charles in Sept.1954...has his nose split open down to the bone! They beg the Dr. and the ref not to stop the fight. The Rock could have
     
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  12. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    QUIT while sitting on his stool. He chose to soldier on...KO's Charles and keeps the title. We know what Sonny did as champ...KO's "china chinned" Floyd Patterson in their rematch in 1963...and quits on his stool In Feb. 1964 in Miami...and then the farce up in Maine in 1965. Marciano had the will and the mental toughness that Liston didn't have.
     
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  13. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    How about you answer my simple question from the other thread, instead of running away....i will ask again....

    Do you make ANYONE favourite over Marciano?

    Dempsy?
    Louis?
    Ali?
    Holmes?
    Foreman?
    Tyson?
    Lewis?
     
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  14. 2piece

    2piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Walctt and Charles both trouble him and can box well.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    That's three posts that didn't answer the question posed in the
    O P .Want to try for four?
     
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