offence from the philly shell

Ok, it's not from Philly and it's not a shell.
I'm still none the wiser.

On this rare occassion, I'll seek solace in klompton's words. He says it's bullsh!t, and I'll go with that.

The article was okay, but, as I mentioned, it didn't tell me what the philly shell is. It just talked mainly about James Toney's counterpunching.

 

Ok dip****, then show me the natural evolution of Mayweathers style or Toneys style from Philadelphia and then show me where this style that is supposedly the mythical non exustent philly shell was ever used in philadelphia to any extent that it derives its name from the city. Its ridiculous. Somehow a bunch of punkass moronic kids who know nothing about boxing (and youd have to be that to be a fan of Mayweather) mistook a shell style defense which was derived from the crab defense which existed for decades before and itself had nothing to do with philly by eddie futch for Frazier and Norton and then somehow tied that to how Toney and Mayweather fought which is nothing like anyone from Philly. Even if you want to argue that somehow Benton developed that style later on none of the fighters he trained fought like the Mayweathers including the defensive sweet pea and none of the Mayweathers were trained by anyone with any stylistic connection to Philly or Benton. In reality the Mayweather style (and to their credit they are honest about this) has nothing to do with Philly and was taught by a guy named Dale Williams who was a michigan trainer and who himself had nothing to do with Philly or even a shell/crab defense. Some dip**** like yourself attached that fake madeup ****ing fairytale name to what Mayweather was doing and a bunch of other know nothing dip****s thought "wow, that sounds really cool!" and ran with it just like you are doing. But guess what, evolution can be traced backwards. Tracing the Mayweathers style back to Philly will only get you a dead end and tracing the term applied to it "philly shell" will run off the tracks less than ten years ago, which may seem like a long time to a punkass moron who worships the mayweathers but its not.

 

do french fries come from france?

do you go on a rant about it every time you see the phrase french fries?

 

There are a lot of terms that come into common usage that don't have a logical or correct origin. Either by error or by someone just making up the term from nowhere really, or some undefined and mysterious origin.
That's cool. It's just how the world is.

I'm more interested in what exactly the "philly shell" is supposed to be.
Many, if not most, of the old-time fighters had the low left hand and the chin tucked behind the shoulder. Is that the shell ? With the right hand below the chin or even covering the left side of the chin ?
Did Ken Norton use the shell ?
Tim Withespoon (a Philadelphia fighter trained by Slim Jim Robinson, a Philly fighter, I believe) ?

 

Redundant

 

Actually, french fries do have a french origin as does their etymology.

But more to the point French fries arent an imaginary made up name, they actually describe something tangible and the logical progession of them can be traced back to where and why they were so named. Unfortunately for hipsters here you cant do that with the Philly Shell and cant tie that in any way shape or form to Mayweather. But go on kingfisher, keep speaking, in two sentences you do more to expose your ignorance than i ever could in a month of sundays.

And in regards to witherspoon and norton, they used a crab style cross armed defense which looks nothing like the way mayweather fights so if you want to call norton (who wasnt a philly fighter) and witherspoon proponents of the philly shell, nobody did during their career, thats fine but then show the connection to mayweather and toney... no? I didnt think so.

 

Yeah, that was my question. If philly shell exists as a style or stance or defensive technique (and no one has defined what it is at yet, so I don't know), would Tim Witherspoon be a good example?
He's from philly after all, and he used the crab/cross-armed defense, and crabs do have shells.

I don't know the criteria requirements for this so-called "philly shell". Yes, the term istelf is probably rubbish, but I don't even know what it refers to.

Mayweather does lots of things, I just don't know which part is the philly shell.

 

various sources told me they aren't french in any way, but i'm not a food expert so you could be right on that. what i read is that the process is belgian, the name is american and the 1st use in a cookbook was by an englishman. according to the logic you used the fact that some french people don't eat them is enough to dismiss the name anyway.

from what i can see the difference is that french fries is a made up name from 150 years ago and philly shell is a made up name from 10 years ago.

no one has mentioned mayweather in this thread except you.

the discussion about what the style is(including if it is) and at what point a similar style stops being the same is worth having. you ****ting all over some guys article without even referencing anything except the title is just you being an ****hole.

 

I never heard the term until the "Fight Night" series of video games.

 

Thanks for the effort. :good

 

It's an embarassement for this forum that you had to do this after a pointless discussion when everyone knew what you meant in the first place.

Klompton and Unforgiven really made asses out of themselves here.