Boxers affected and unaffected by Dementia pugilistica

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  1. Expat09

    Expat09 Member Full Member

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    Some say up to 90% of professional boxers suffer long term permanent damage from punches taken during their boxing careers.

    Which Boxers have suffered from DP or other diseases linked to brain injuries (e.g. Parkinsons)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia_pugilistica


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    Jerry Quarry
    Joe Louis
    Ali ?
    Sugar Ray Robinson ?

    Unaffected
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    ?


    Who are potential candidates?

    Shannon Briggs (esp after his fight with Vitali)
    Carl Froch
     
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  2. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman and George Chuvalo both seem unaffected.

    Brandon Rios is going to have a rough road ahead of him.
     
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  3. mcguirpa

    mcguirpa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    James Toney ain't the man he was. Amir Khan needs to be careful.

    Jermain Taylor is a high profile case, getting banjoed on numerous occasions seems to have permanently altered his personality.

    Also... Roger Mayweather. Barely coherent.

    Hopkins seems to have all his faculties in tact.
     
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  4. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He's walking around talking, eating and making millions from grinning on TV.
    Clearly his brain is totally dead but the body is still walking on it's own;

    John Michael "Ozzy" Osbourne
     
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  5. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Peter Mcneeley is a wreck sadly
     
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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    CBD cannabis oil works wonders for those suffering from puglistic dementia.

    There's huge research going into the effects of CBD and brain related injuries.
     
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  7. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali and Roach ended up with traumatic Parkinson's, not pugilistic dementia.

    Norris also has Parkinson's.

    Bowe might have some dementia. I think Tubbs too. Benitez did. Bobby Chacon has it.
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Ali definatly was effected by it. It wasnt just Parkinson's and yes Robinson had it too.
     
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  9. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prove it. I've read no articles stating that.
     
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  10. Expat09

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    Pugilistic dementia can lead to many things including Parkinsons disease.

    "Symptoms
    The condition, which occurs in athletes having suffered repetitive blows to the head, manifests as dementia, or declining mental ability, problems with memory, dizzy spells or lack of balance to the point of not being able to walk under one's own power for a short time and or Parkinsonism, or tremors and lack of coordination. It can also cause speech problems and an unsteady gait. Patients with DP may be prone to inappropriate or explosive behavior and may display pathological jealousy or paranoia."
     
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  12. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's possible to have both, but pugilistic dementia typically refers to frontal lobe damage, while Parkinson's is cause by damage to the substancia nigra located in the cerebellum, in the back of the head.

    You quoted wiki. Here's a site about it that does not blanket wrap Traumatic Parkinson's with pugilistic dementia. The reason why guys like Roach and Norris are involved in training is because they aren't demented, they had issues with dopamine production.

    https://www.dementia.org/dementia-pugilistica
     
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  13. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hitman Hearnes I struggle understanding and James Toney would need subtitles as he's impossible to understand,both these guys took serious head punishment,amazed Nigel Benn isn't worse than what he is,Rid**** Bowe sounds bad as well.
     
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  14. Lartize

    Lartize Active Member Full Member

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    Ive heard Jake LaMotta held up really well. The guys head was HUGE though for a middleweight, so maybe that helped..
     
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  15. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney reportedly has a shrunken pituitary gland which can be caused by trauma. That would cause low testosterone.
     
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