Wilder vs Chris Byrd

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Im not the one who picks guys who are shot to absolute bits to beat top rated contenders.

    But that is not the issue. The issue is Helenius only became that way because you hated the fact he was destroyed by a Wilder victim. Thus Wilders credibility goes up.

    You're too deep in the Wilder hate game to ever change. Its embarrassing. For you.
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Duhaupas isn't a top contender. Losing to Wilder doesn't boost your status. And you picked against Wladamir Klitschko for years in fights he was heavily favored in. :lol::rofl
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Duhaupas is top 5 by IBF & WBC.

    He should be top 5 by WBO , but somehow is not in the top 15. The fact they have David Haye in the top 5 tells you all you need to know.

    RH was highly ranked by WBO when he fought Duhaupas.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You're so thick headed it's ridiculous. Not once did since Helenius mounted his comeback did I claim he was still a top contender. I went on record long before the Duhaupas fight that Wilder would smoke him at that point. I had hoped he would be able to put things together and eventually display a similar form to what he had prior to the long layoff. It became extremely obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense that he was no longer a contender after the Rill and Musafarov fights, since you're such a thick headed moron here's a thread from Dec where I pretty much said i'd favor Wilder over Helenius at that point.

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=555366&page=2


    Again rich considering your reputation around these parts regarded your consuming hatred of a certain fighter. Irony and Hypocrisy don't seem to exist in your warped version of reality.
     
  5. BCS8

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    Actually Dino took an account ban bet over that certain fighter and lost :lol:
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wait, Robert Helenius was a shot undefeated fighter?
     
  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did you peep his posts on Stiverne Wilder, lmao?:lol:
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    How old is Helenius 32? And you mean that Helenius was making a come back from a Dec 2015 fight and took time off and fought in April 2016? I don't get what you're saying. I'm not trying to be funny. Just asking... He was out from 2013-2015 so maybe you're talking about that time off. Still he won a 3 fights before Duhaupus.
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Did you not see the fight with Chisora? Or are you just playing dumb?


    The time off between 2013-2015... Which was down to combination of injuries he had sustained and issues with his promoter.

    Two being against low quality journeymen, the other against Rill a fairly limited European level fighter - where he managed to look fairly poor in. Also looked pretty bad against Timur Musafarov in an 8 round exhibition.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    A bet he welched on... :lol:

    I lost a 1 month ban bet for the Stiverne/Wilder fight. Unlike Dino I'm a man of my word and honored it.
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    So on one hand you're saying I should take those ABC rankings regarding Helenius and Duhaupas seriously, but I shouldn't take Hayes top 5 ranking seriously.... Why should have Helenius been ranked but not Haye? Both were out of the ring for years and go ranked after beating a couple of bums.
     
  12. sean

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    helnius was exposed v chisora in 2011 as a limited fighter a fight IMO he lost.

    then contract disputes with sauerland kept him inactive to recently and then his loss to dulhaupus a man with very little power kod him.

    impossible to say he was shot pryor to dulhaupus / i dont think he was or is / just that he has reached his level as a fighter.
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Imma be honest. I've never checked for Helenius. I never even saw the Chisora highlights. Imma peep these fights doe.
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ok, thanks. :good
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I kept wondering why everyone was going crazy when Duhaupus beat Helenius.