Tony Galento v David Tua 15rds?

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  1. reznick

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    Galento knocked him down, so that result speaks for itself.

    When Tua fought Lewis, the crowd was beginning to exit the arena before the fight was over.

    That should be taken into consideration also.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Galento hurt Louis early and dropped him later and fought with great heart. I've seen far lesser efforts.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Yes, I've read much of the contemporary press of the day. "Experts" didn't expect him to hit and hurt Louis like that either. Louis had been knocking his challengers out in 1 round leading up to the Galento fight, and Galento gave him a real fight, a bit of a scare.
    How many of these "experts" had actually fought Galento or Louis?

    Boxing history is littered with "experts" getting it wrong.
    Rarely is there a perod in history where writers say the heavyweight division is in anything but terrible shape.

    Galento was a barroom brawler but they matched him with plenty of athletes and stylists, guys with national amateur pedigrees, young fighters with svelte physiques and boxing skills, and he wasn't afraid to fight black fighters with reputations too. Galento beat some of these guys, so he must have had something.
     
  4. mcvey

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    He had a big left hook and a good chin which saw him through to win 80 fights many against also rans ,but his lack of skill or speed also resulted in him losing 25 fights ,some to those same also rans.
     
  5. mcvey

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    There was never anything wrong with Tony's ticker.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Did he fight any mobile, skilled ,super heavyweights ?
    Any Lewis' on his sheet? How about good big men that could box like Byrd ,Oquendo,Izon?
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    Yes. He's not an ATG.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Because I never said Tua was a diverse master boxer or even implied it.I just said he was better in the abities I named than Galento,and btw who wasn't?
    You tried to put words in my mouth I did not speak ,I find I can talk quite well for myself. That was blatantly dishonest,and stupid .
    I simply listed all the categories that I think Tua is superior to Galento ie
    Speed of hand,defence, speed of foot.

    If you don't agree I couldn't care less because
    I think you're one of the worst posters here, and one continually out-classed in debates. Anyone ever agree with you on this forum?
     
  9. mcvey

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    The fact that he was the number one contender in 1939 tells us it was a poor era for heavyweights.Included in that top ten were Roscoe Toles,Gunnar Barlund,Red Burman,Johnny Paychek ,and a 34 years old Schmeling.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    He fought lots of fighters. What's your point?
    I'd be most surprised if none of them had the skills of a David Izon.

    Since there is limited footage, and zero footage, of most of the men on his record, what's the point in us arguing since, if we're honest, we don't have adequate knowledge to make a thorough assessment of the "skills" of the men in question ?

    Unless we're to descend into some ridiculous boxrec debate, or hang on the words of "contemporary reports" (often written by arrogant sportswriters who are proven wrong time and time again) as some sort of gospel.

    Well, who was a good - or even "decent" - heavyweight contender?
    How many decent fighters at heavyweight were there, in total, let's say, between 1930 and 1955 ?
    We can throw a couple of eras under the bus while we're here.
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tons of times.

    I caught you in a lie now you are acting like a baby. Get over it. You even said that Buddy Baer wasn't ranked when Nova was which is quite hilarious. Anyone who has done any form of research into boxing history knows the era's around when Buddy Baer and Nova were ranked. You proved yourself as being someone who dksab and a pathological liar.

    Now I can see you are mad because I've kicked your ass in every debate you try and instigate so you resort to name calling and pathetic insults. The only time anyone has ever agreed with you is when you are kissing their ass. See ya when I pick my kid up from preschool :hi:
     
  12. mcvey

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    Do we have adequate knowledge to declare Harry Greb was a great fighter? Yes because we know the calibre of the men he beat.

    Similarly we know that Galento was beaten 26 times and often by lhvys and journeymen.

    If you lose as many as you win you're journeyman at best ,there is no getting away from that and it applies to many opponents of Galento,some of whom were no better than second raters.

    Galento was beaten by lhy Rosenbloom,stopped by lhy Gainer,drew twice with lhy journeyman Don Petrin 32-30-3. lost to Unknown Winston 39-21-3,was stopped by Marty Gallagher36-19-5,lost to Natie Brown 12-11-3.

    My point is you didn't have to be a top fighter or even a fringe contender to beat Galento, nor a heavyweight.

    No one who wasn't world class ,or a fringe contender,[ only 2 beat him and he was 39 & 41 at the time ,]and certainly no lvy's beat Tua.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Here is another question you won't answer.
    Nova was ranked in1937,1938,1939.

    Show me where Buddy Baer was?

    I'm not mad ,I'm a little annoyed with myself that I wasted time on a moron but I'll get over that with a couple of pints in a minute.
    Anyone who has done research would know that Buddy Baer wasn't ranked until 1940. and again in1941 that is the extent of his involvement with the top ten.
    You keep smiling in your own little universe MUG.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

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    [url]http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_1941[/url]

    This is the SECOND time I have answered your question BOY. And this is the SECOND time you have ignored it. Check the rankings for yourself not what you heard on boxing forum. :hi:
     
  15. Absolutely!

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    This fight is a complete mismatch. Tua would waste him.