Kid Galahad back on ggg v brook bill I hear...

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  1. B.A.S.

    B.A.S. Active Member Full Member

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    This. Brutally.
     
  2. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    A bit harsh for a first offence.
     
  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Nope. Nowhere near harsh enough. Lifetime bans and records struck from history.

    We need to send a message that drug use won't be tolerated in boxing. Considering some of the pretty nasty stuff you were suggesting about CEJ post Blackwell then I thought you'd agree.
     
  4. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    His defence team said the amount of steroid in his system was minuscule and not indicative of deliberate systematic cheating. Plus it was too little to be of any benefit to him. Also his ban was shortened, indicating the authorities were not entirely unsympathetic to him.

    Obviously if he reoffends, he has to go...permanently.
     
  5. B.A.S.

    B.A.S. Active Member Full Member

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    His defence was terrible. "Oh, me and me brother fell out so he spiked me protein shake."

    Remember, just because he got a reduction on the ban it doesn't mean that he wasn't guilty in the first place.
     
  6. lencoreastside

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    His defence was not terrible. They did what they could. They made the point that the amount of steroid in his system was too tiny to be of any benefit in terms of performance enhancement. The inference being that it was not ingested deliberately by the athlete.
    What more could they do?
     
  7. joegray

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    Len this isn't an accidental consumption of a ban substance from a protein bar. It was a family member putting steroids into this supplements. He got his punishment and his career has took a hit but don't justify what he done as a "first offence". It's a lot more serious than others and he should know what he is consuming
     
  8. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I'm not doing anything of the sort Joe. He did the crime and he did the time. Never once did I say he should not have been punished, and indeed he was punished.
    The rules put "total responsibility" on the athlete for what he consumes. There is no mercy. Test positive and its a ban.
     
  9. rampant

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    Interesting article would never have thought they would still help years later.
     
  10. CutThroatFade

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    If you actually believe that story then God help you. Jesus...

    And it is irrelevant if it was a minuscule amount in his system. For all we know he had only been using it for a week or two. Bottom line is he used winstrol clearly in order to make weight without losing strength. The entire Ingle camp is at it.
     
  11. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    This is true. Also lets not forget how many careers theyve spoiled through there cheating and taking undeserved wins from opponents whose campaigns theyve put back.
    It takes long enough as it is for fighters to get belts without having your cateer stalled because you got beaten by someone whos been caught for doping.
    All the fighters kid beat on his record they wont get that time back that its taken em to get back up there.
    If someone is found to be intentionaly doping especialy with meds like winny whrre you cant claim it came from an otc product, they should be banned for life
     
  12. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Ok but you fail to take in to account several factors.
    1. What if some malicious person spikes a fighters drink or food?
    2. You can be contaminated with steroids just by eating a steak! In places like South America beef cattle farmers " cheat" by fattening their cattle with huge quantities of steroids.

    This is why a lifetime ban can't be applied!
     
  13. krb

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    Theoretical, and hopefully it doesn't happen, but.......

    What would happen if one of Galahad's opponents got seriously hurt?

    There was a lot of finger pointing after Blackwell v Eubank - would it still be the opponent/trainer/referees fault? The Board would have some tough questions to answer - could they be held liable?
     
  14. lencoreastside

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    There is no neat simple snswer. The investigation would have to find concrete proof " beyond reasonable doubt" that there was deliberate cheating involved.
     
  15. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    The onus is on the athlete to protect himself.only buy products from reliable sources
    That rule is already in place and quite rightly. Otherwise its easy to claim you were spiked.