GGG is not unbeatable but Kell brook is not the man to beat him...

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kell's best weapon which is his jab, straight punches and strength are gunna be neutralised by GGG. Like GGG kell does not like to fight inside he prefers his keeping his opponent mid range, but GGG has the better mid range game as well as he ability to breakout of a clinches this is demonstrated by a clip on youtube where GGG teaches Sullivan Barrera techniques for escaping clinches and infighting, so his tactic of holding when someone comes inside is not gunna be as effective.

    I like kell brook I think he is the best welterweight from the eye test (Spence looks like his biggest threat) but this is too big a jump without any tune up or experience in the middleweight division. I'm rooting for him but anyone who thinks he beats GGG are doing so with their heart rather than their brain and boxing knowledge.

    I've noticed a phenomena that when a mismatch is announced opinion always sway as the fight gets closer due to other people picking the underdog, i.e. Khan vs Canelo, more often than note provided the person does something really unorthodox the outcome is the what was first predicted.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    with khan, it was just the same brits who do the exact same thing anytime a brit fights. its a point of honor for many of them to support their fighter to the point of delusion. not all of them, but the loudest ones do it time and time again.
    with brook, you have the same group praying for the same thing. except now, theyve been joined by the demographic, who is praying more for ggg to lose, than praying for brook to win.
     
  3. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with you but I could see why people picked Khan because there was a key to victory for khan which was get in get out although it was highly unlikely he would be able to do it for 12 rounds there was at least a way. With Brook is see no way from any of his past performances, GGG is essentially a bigger more powerful Brook with more experience, but if I'm being honest I would love if Brook made GGG look more vulnerable along the way to his inevitable KO just so people like Jacobs, Saunders, Eubank and Canelo feel they see cracks in the armour and man up to his challenge. I hate GGG nuthuggers calling him the best thing since sliced bread when he has not fought the people the best (granted not his fault when it comes to his division) and I hate GGG haters who discredit every achievement the guy has has along the way, I prefer to be objective and neutral.
     
  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you do sound like youre realistic about the situation.
    everyone, except the same brits i mentioned, pretty much predicted exactly how canelo-khan was going to go down. khan wins some rounds with his speed, khan gets timed, khan gets knocked senseless.
    now, everyone except the same group is saying brooks strategy goes out the window as soon as he feels ggg's knuckles dig into any part of his body.
    i agree with you that there are nuthuggers and haters to spare when you mention ggg. but predicting that brook gets smashed doesnt make anyone a nuthugger or a hater, it just makes them realistic, like yourself.
    one thing that im really looking forward to, is reading what all the ggg critics will say when ggg outboxes someone who they are now claiming, is a special boxer.
     
  5. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone who thinks Brook can outbox GGG needs to lay off the silly sauce. I hear people saying GGG is just a powerful with no real skills but that can't be the case if he has a silver medal and 300+ amateur fights. Who do you give the best chance of beating GGG?? I think Ward if GGG had gone up to 168 or Andrade maybe degale other than that I think he will dominate 160 and 168 too.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes, ward is the only one that may have the medicine to cure good boy syndrome.
     
  7. drenlou

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    I think Degale might have a shot at beating GGG.
     
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree but he would have to fight the perfect fight the problem is degale is to talented for his own good his conditioning is worrying, gives away a lot of needless rounds to avoid gassing out. Against ggg he would pay big time for such tactics.
     
  9. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Golovkin is a nobody.

    He has no special effects and is your average straight up European fighter. He has no DAP like a black fighter and no humph like a Mexican fighter.
    Brook is a much better boxer but his size disadvantage will allow Little g to go the distance.
    At the end of the fight Brook will be aloof, like Khan, and Golovkin will still be a nobody.
     
  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See it's guys like this me and Bandeedo were talking about that try to belittle GGG for no real reason except there bias
     
  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What will you say when GGG stops brook?
    What will you say if GGG stops him early and it doesn't make the distance?
     
  12. elchivito

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    Ward had the ring IQ, the size, the speed, and defense to neutralize or at least keep the momentum from swinging into Golovkin's favor. Ggg also has a very high ring IQ and many overlook that. I also believe he's not a true inside fighter as many believe, he picks his shots and is economical with them. I don't think he lost against Gaydar, but it did lay out the blueprint. Ggg is more complete now especially with those bodyshots. An absurd, controversial British style stoppage loss in the UK against a quick fisted fighter like Eubank Jr or even Brook wouldn't surprise me tho.
     
  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think GGG likes an inside tussle he likes his opponent backing away which gives him space to pick his shots, Ward would have made it very awkward for him especially because he has not fought an talented inside fighter in years. Nevertheless it would have been a good fight which either could of won.
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Agreed. Ggg always seems to depend on leverage ALOT and he's great at it. He definitely needs that space, I don't recall him smothering his punches like many pressure or inside fighters tend to do.
     
  15. Words

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    I favour GGG in this fight too, but I think stylistically it might be quite a hard night's work for Golovkin.

    Brook has good footwork, good movement, he uses angles and is comfortable fighting in the centre of the ring and on the ropes. He's much more versatile than most of GGG's opponents, and he will be much harder to hit clean than most of the guys GGG has been fighting. I don't think GGG will be able to just blast him out of there like he has some of his other victims, cos I don't think GGG will get chance to land clean shots on Brook.

    As a Brit, rooting for Kell Brook in this fight is somewhat different to rooting for Khan versus Canelo for example - Khan was a blown up lightweight, who never had a chin, and who is quite one dimensional (fast hands, good offense) whereas Brook is massive for a welterweight and has much more to his game than Khan.

    I favour Golovkin by 60/40 and I would not be surprised if this fight went the full 12 rounds. Despite coming up in weight I think Brook is one of his toughest tests to date and I would rather he fought Brook than someone like Eubank Jr who I genuinely don't rate at all.