Young Foreman (1973) vs. current HWs ?

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You mean like the 6'6" 253lbs Gerry Cooney an old Foreman KOe'd in 2 brutally one sided rounds. Based off of that performance prime Foreman wouldn't break a sweat with most big super heavies who'd just be a sitting target for Big George's power.

    People focus on the size, saying he beat cruisers and ignoring the fact an old faded Foreman dealt with bigger heavies handily during his comeback. The guy fought in 2 of the most competitive era's in history of the sport and was good enough to win a title both times. To think he would just be another heavy in this era is laughable.

    Now I am not saying he would beat everyone but he'd be a handful at least of anyone. Maybe Fury can stay away for 12 rounds but maybe not, Foreman is far more adept at coming forward than Wlad and his body attack alone would likely do a lot to slow Fury.

    Wlad now is too old he'd be KO'ed quickly as his jab is gone and he'd need that to beat George. Prime Wlad has a chance to clinch his way to a decision but I doubt it, probably succumbs to Foreman's power at some point.

    Ortiz is good and I could see him giving Foreman a tough fight like Lyle. But Ortiz is a plodder he'd be there to hit and would be forced to trade with Foreman and in that scenario you have to favour the more proven puncher.

    Parker would be steam rolled, he is too easy to get to and his quick hands and power isn't enough to discourage George. he doesn't counter enough and against the constant aggression of Foreman he'd struggle to find openings to let his hands go. Takam fought in spurts and gave him hell, a bigger hitter with a better workrate and way more power would be too much.
     
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    Considering he was still doing well in nineteens when he was only a shadow of his former self I gotta say that he would be very difficult opponent for todays heavyweights as well.
     
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    You have just admitted you don't know yourself :clap:

    Cheers :biggrin:
     
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    Lyle , Frazier and Norton were not Cruiser weight and they were utterly demolished.
     
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  5. Absolutely!

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    Frazier was.
     
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    214lbs isn't cruiserweight. The cruiserweight limit is 200.
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Foreman would knock the hell out of everybody around today. The heavyweight division today has **** stamina and weak ass chins.
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Foreman's style never involved using his weight against other guys. He was just naturally big. Being bigger doesn't mean you are using a size advantage.
     
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  9. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are right !
     
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  10. Absolutely!

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    Foreman was 217 in his prime. Not that much bigger in all honesty.

    Just seems odd people always bring up how 'small' Cunningham is. He was a legit heavyweight at the weight. A small one, but no smaller than fighters like Frazier, Louis etc.
     
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    Physicality was a big part of his game. He utilised his strength to push opponents off when they got on the inside. That strength would naturally be diminished against bigger men.

    He did possess crazy strength for his weight though, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to manhandle men with a good fifteen/twenty pounds on him.
     
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  12. zop

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    Please, don't compare Foreman and Cunningham. Never !
     
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    MUFA$A FEAR * THE * TANK Full Member

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    Preach .
    Foreman would make you believe you are witnessing the 70s all over again . Even today , where the fighters are naturally a lot heavier .

    This ATG will still be dropping bodies left and right in 2016 .
     
  15. zop

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    It is off topic, but I have to add a sentence. I doubt that even prime Vitali, with his excellent chin, could do anything against GF.