HBO: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook & Roman Gonzalez vs. Carlos Cuadras RBR.

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I said that when ward was at 168. Where have you been? Ggg doesn't even have to go up two weights of he goes up one degale will get in his ass. Lastly I like canelos chances alot more right now. If brook was a natural mw he would have beaten ggg. He can be outboxed and is too easy to hit his power is his equalizer that's it.
     
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  2. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some of you are tards.

    Brook did NOT survive the first round on his accord. He survived it only because GGG let off the gas pedal to extend the fight.

    GGG extended the fight because he obviously wants to have another big PPV event in the UK. Who would pay to see him again for less then 1 round?

    Brook landed some shots not because he is amazing or that GGG is bad. He landed them because GGG fought a fight of a bigger man in the ring. When you have that size and power advantage, you walk the smaller man down and yes, in the process you shake off few shot that obviously can't hurt you.

    This fight was garbage, should've never happened. There are weight divisions for a reason. The only take away from this fight is that Brook has a granite chin. He belongs at 154 and I can see him cleaning it out.

    Golovkin take aways? None. This was a sparring session from the moment he hurt Kell in the very 1st round.
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe they did ask him how his eye was before that final round and that's part of the reason they stopped it when they did. After the fight Kell said it felt like his eye socket was broken and it was difficult because he was seeing 3 Golovkin's. Other fighters may have won fights with similar injuries but you can just as easily end up with permanent damage and/or career threatening injuries. I personally don't think you should take risks with a fighter's eyesight, it's not the smart thing to do to. Better to be safe than sorry and live to fight another day imo.
     
  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The irony...
     
  5. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    Well how many fighters can you name off the top who have had permanent damage from a broken orbital bone? If Brook was in serious trouble, he'd have taken a knee. I think it should be on the fighter to make the decisions. It's his life, his sacrifices, his career and his body. I'm of course not talking about unconscious fighters, but Brook was more than capable of waving off that fight or taking a knee. He didn't. He wanted to fight. He was physically capable of fighting.
     
  6. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what time does the Choco fight start? having problems with my eye socket.
     
  7. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't really think of many that have had that injury but I remember with Antonio Margarito's eye injury there was a time when they weren't sure if he would be able to fight again. Maybe ask a fight doctor or boxing commission if they would let a boxer fight with a fractured eye socket.

    Not necessarily. Some fighters have been seriously hurt without taking a knee or by the time they took the knee, it was too late and the damage was already done.

    I disagree. I think fighters sometimes need to be saved from themselves as they can be too brave or macho or unaware in the heat of the moment. Also if you're getting hit in the head, you might not be thinking clearly.

    He seemed fine with the decision to me.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Canelo went six rounds and was thoroughly outboxed in 4 maybe 5 of them against a featherfisted glass jawed 140lb fighter who'd been KO'd twice by average punchers and dropped several times. Canelo was even hurt in the first momentarily. He looked average against a guy brought in to be brutally KO'd.

    GGG went to war with and beat a big slick counter puncher with a high KO percentage and a weight cutting natural 154lb fighter with an iron chin that had never been down in his career, might have lost 1 or 2 rounds, probably while fighting the worst strategically idiotic fight of his life and possibly sick. And still broke his eye and forced a stoppage.

    Hopefully GGG looked bad enough and beatable enough to lure Canelo in, the trap has been set, now will Amarillo take the bait?


    I do hope this clears up a few fallacies on here though, no Welterweight no matter how good they are can beat a good MW, and all the people who think GGG would KO Kovalev, or could stand up to Kovalev's punches, yeah...... he can't.
     
  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Good summary
     
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  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    :hsughwiggle: and you yourself have mentioned many times that he got rocked by senchenko. Now he has an iron chin? LOL
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Didn't go down did he? His glove touched, and he was not hurt. Did he get rocked by Senchenko, yes. Khan was no chin, Brook's chin is clearly solid as a rock. But Canelo got rocked by Khan and Jose Miguel Cotto, that's embarrassing.

    Do yourself a favor and don't try to draw false equivalencies here, Khan's chin is s***, Brook has never shown anything near the level of chinnyness of Khan.
     
  12. Lincoln Haines

    Lincoln Haines Member Full Member

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    So GGG was purposely swinging for the fences, missing, and getting countered? ok..
     
  13. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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  14. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well they could depending on how good the welterweight is and how good the middleweight is.
     
  15. Lincoln Haines

    Lincoln Haines Member Full Member

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    GGG beat a WW today. there is no other way to spin it. He beat a ww today that no one was sure of being the best ww in the world.