Why does Brook get a pass!??

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Bro at some point you're going to have to give Brook credit. He fought a guy who has his division spooked. And I'm one of GGG'S biggest detractors on here, I think his division is soft, but the best guys out there in the division don't want it right now.

    Maybe after this performance people will now want to test their skills against this guy, but Brook put that blue print up, he has the heart, the will, and the skills to get in there and fight this guy. If anything, this is a positive for Brook, he put up a great performance against a guy 2 divisions heavier than him.

    So if he was able to do that, how can you favor anybody but Canelo over him AT 154? I don't get it. Let's give Brook some credit here, he's no chump.
     
    drenlou, Sep 16, 2016
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  2. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol I clearly said I like Brook did he show lots of heart in that fight? Of course he did hats off to him, I also thought he was the best welterweight so I'm not a Brook hater by any means. If you think Brook put a blueprint out on how to beat Golovkin then I'm not sure what you saw. He had moments just like all the other fighters did against GGG, but he got stopped early almost in the 1st round. Why do you think he beats Canelo off that performance? You favour Brook over Lara and Andrade at their weights?
     
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  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Cmon man... Nobody lifted GG off the mat, or fought him as Hard as Brook did. Canelo imo beats both brook and GGG, I've been very vocal about it, but to me, besides Canelo Lara is the only other guy that can beat Brook. Andrade, the Charlo bros, JRock, I'd favor Brook over them. Easily.. Brook can fight.

    You're a cool cat bro, I like you but I disagree on this subject about Brook not being a legit 154 pounder. Don't take it personal.
     
    drenlou, Sep 16, 2016
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  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo has a chance against GGG maybe a 70-30 fight but ultimately GGG stops late to the body I think. Lara would cause him problems with his movement but that style does not win fights if your not floyd they seem to always favour the aggressor if he lands a decent amount we saw it with Gonzalez vs Caudras.

    That's where me and you differ, off the eye test I think Andrade is the best in that division. Hopefully brook fights some of them not just Canelo so we can see who's right.
     
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  5. drenlou

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    I agree Andrade is the most talented fighter of that division, but I still think Brook beats him. It wouldn't be anything wide, but Brook would beat him, by a 7-5 type decision. Imo.
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But if he's the most talented fighter why would do you think Brook beats him but not Canelo or Lara? Just the styles are wrong for brook? Otherwisr that don't make sense
     
    jmashyaka, Sep 16, 2016
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  7. liger1992

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    Brook almost stopped in the 1st round? BS. Being rocked and then recovering quickly does not mean he was almost stopped.
     
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  8. drenlou

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    Because Brook is a talented fighter himself, that's why, and that's who I pick to win.. Canelo imo is the best at 154, I mean how many ****ing times does he have to prove it?
     
    drenlou, Sep 16, 2016
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  9. drenlou

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    Listen homie, I like you, and if you think Andrade can wipe out the 154 pound division, then you're entitled to your opinion... I disagree, but don't take it personal.
     
    drenlou, Sep 16, 2016
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  10. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if you think more competitive its not like the Brook fight came at the expense of other fights.

    Eubank had the chance and declined. Saunders has never asked for the GGG fight. He might now be running his mouth but prior to Monday BJS wanted no part of GGG at all.
     
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  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was all over the place, I'm not sure getting your orbital bone broken is what you can say is being rocked and recovering, if anything he just bit down on his gum shield and fought through the pain credit to him for showing such courage nevertheless.
     
    jmashyaka, Sep 16, 2016
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  12. jmashyaka

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    He was the best 154, he pretty much left that division, he's one of the best just off resume and if he beats some of the guys we mention sure his the man down there if that's the case.
     
    jmashyaka, Sep 16, 2016
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  13. jmashyaka

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    Not taking it personal youve been reasonable so I don't mind, I don't think anyone wipes out the division, they all would take a loss or two but that's what happen when you get a division with talented fighters and they fight each other.
     
    jmashyaka, Sep 16, 2016
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  14. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It kinda did coz now Brook is injured we won't be able to him in with any one else for a while. I wanted to see Brook Spence, or Brook Thurman etc.

    Agreed that all those guys ducked GGG and had no interest in fighting him.
     
    jmashyaka, Sep 16, 2016
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  15. drenlou

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    It's all hood!
     
    drenlou, Sep 16, 2016
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