Do you think Floyd Mayweather is a top 5 greatest boxer of all time?

Probably the closest to reality. I would place him in the TOP 40-60th.

 

Boxing is very deep and has had alot of great fighters. I will post a list later I got to go out. Talk to you later man.

 

I can't see him making the top 30, that's for sure.

 

obviously not top 5 or even close.


That's not the end of Moneys problems - he chopped and changed divisions so much that he never made an ATG mark on any single division. He will never be in a top ten ATG list for any single division.
Though one cant deny that a FW winning a title at LMW is definitely ATG worthy.

 

No....ffs are there only children posting on here now?
I'm not a Classic forum guy who thinks Harry Greb walked on water, but please,
top 5? All time? Come on, man.

 

a guys kicks ass through six weight classes, goes undefeated, breaks undefeated record, TBE best defensive fighter ever, took on all comers, history breaking paydays, and just plain dominated for 20 years.

Delete your account, sign off, buy a dksab tshirt and hat. GTFOH

 

No. And anyone that says yes DKSAB.

 

Yes, at least 40.

 

Granted Bert Sugar died in 2012 he was one of boxings most iconic writers and historians. I do think there are some flaws on this list and that Floyd and Manny should crack the top 100 albeit alot closer to 100 and most likely not in the top 50. There are also other great boxers left out and some I would move lower and others higher. Making a top 100 takes alot of time if you intend to do it seriously so I thought I would use this as an example. I posted my top 10 on the other board. RIP Bert Sugar.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Wille Pep
4. Joe Louis
5. Harry Greb
6. Benny Leonard
7. Muhammad Ali
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jack Johnson

11. Mickey Walker
12. Tony Canzoneri
13. Gene Tunney
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Joe Gans
16. Sam Langford
17. Julio Cesar Chavez
18. Jimmy Wilde
19. Stanley Ketchel
20 Barney Ross

21, Jimmy McLarnin
22. Archie Moore
23. Marcel Cerdan
24. Ezzard Charles
25. Sugar Ray Leonard
26. Joe Walcott (The original)
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Eder Jofre
29. Emile Griffith
30. Terry McGovern

31. George Foreman
32. Johnny Dundee
33. Jose Napoles
34. Pascual Perez
35. Billy Conn
36. Ruben Olivares
37. Joe Frazier
38. Tommy Loughran
39. Sandy Saddler
40. Kid Chocolate
41. Abe Attell
42. Evander Holyfield
43. George Dixon
44. Maxie Rosenbloom
45. Larry Holmes
46. Ted "Kid" Lewis
47. Marvin Hagler
48. Pernell Whitaker
49. Carlos Zarate
50. Thomas Hearns

51. Battling Nelson
52. Beau Jack
53. Ricardo ;Lopez
54. John L. Sullivan
55. Carlos Monzon
56. Alexis Arguello
57. Carmen Basillio
58. Pete Herman
59. Charley Burley
60. Ike Williams
61. Kid Gavilan
62. Jack Britton
63. Dick Tiger
64. Pancho Villa
65. Panama Al Brown
66. Bob Fitszimmons
67. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
68. Tiger Flowers
69. James J.Corbett
70. Tony Zale

71. Tommy Ryan
72. Georges Carpentier
73, Sonny Liston
74. "Kid" McCoy
75. Bob Foster
76. Freddie Welsh
77. Joe Jeanette
78. Jim Driscoll
79. Jersey Joe Walcott
80. Peter Jackson
81. Ad Wolgast
82. Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
83. Manuel Ortiz
84. James J. Jeffries
85. Salvador Sanchez

86. Jimmy Barry
87. Carlos Ortiz
88. Roy Jones Jr.
89. Wilfredo Gomez
90. Aaron Pryor
91. Bernard Hopkins
92. Mike Gibbons
93. Jack Delaney
94. Johnny Kilbane
95. Willie Ritchie
96. Wilfredo Benitez
97. Packey McFarland
98. Rocky Graziano
99. Lew Jenkins
100. Mike Tyson

 

there are many list of top 100 on internet. bert sugar is well respected so his list must be. But what also must be noted he never liked mayweather so that must be taken into consideration.

I personally am not knowledgable enough to cross decades of boxing and make these kinds of determinations.

however every list I have seen has TBE in the top 25 p4p all time.

 

Floyd is close to as good as Pernell Whittaker, who, I believe, should be higher on any top 100 list.
He's #48 on Burt's list. So top 35-40 is ok.

Top 5? GTFOH and fuggettaboutit.

 

"World Champions" lol...
A lot of those guys wouldn't have come close to a title shot if there was only one belt. Ortiz? Guerrero? Berto? Come on, man...

 

no