Prime Riddick Bowe vs Prime Vitali Klitschko

Not better but a hell of a lot bigger, and if you don't think that's significant then you're a bigger window licker than I originally thought....

 

Holyfield was indeed Bowes best opponent but was having heart issues for the Bowe fight and the Moorer fights and although did very well vs prime Bowe. Vitali had an excellent jab, could fight from the outside well and had significant power and also had a height advantage over Bowe. I think Vitali would be more formidable than Holyfield or Golota. I guess you are joking about Coatzer who was a punching bag compared to Vitali, who could box, punch and move pretty well for a 6'9 245lber

 

just like Holyfield got tired with Bowes body weight and size Vitali had that effect over many opponents. Bowes best 2 opponents were Evander and Golota and he lost to Evander and was losing to Vitali, VK would take this fight from the outside and wear Bowe down with some heavy right hands. Bowe was incredibility easy to hit and Vitali had heavy hands

 

Bummy summed it up. Bowe wouldn't be able to bulli Vitali who was bigger than him. Nor would he have a good time trying to land power punches on Vitali who was an elusive target and who has one of the hardest chins in boxing history, even if he did. To compound Bowe's woes, Vitali has an excellent jab himself and fights well off the backfoot. Bowe doesn't have speed or footwork worth mentioning.

The fight is Vitali's to lose. Only way he might lose it is if Bowe managed to draw him into a close range slugfest and dirtied up the fight with his usual nut shots and rabbit punches. I don't see any other way.

 

Holyfield had no heart issues when he fought Bowe in 1992. He was at his peak and undefeated.

He was plagued with these problems and more by the time he fought Lewis. Look how that faded , battle-worn Holyfield did against prime Lewis . Then look how prime Vitali crumbled vs a past prime Lewis. That tells you exactly how good Vitali was.
He took the ATG test and failed horribly , since that ATG in question was shot to bits .
Bowe did not fail in 2/3 encounters against greatness. This is why Bowe wins 10/10. The proof in in the pudding.

Not a joke about Coatzer at all. He had command of the basics better than Vitali. He was loose , a good ring mover and brought shots in and out from his chin opposed to shooting them up from the hip. He was also quicker and put combos together better.
Vitali is a rigid , stiff bean poll who can't bend his arms and throws a ridiculous looping right hand. He can't mimic Golota since he can't he throw shots off in the wheel house and doesn't know how to move his upper body . If you go up against Bowe with zero inside game , you are going to get destroyed.
You're also putting Fritz Sudnek up against Eddie Futch. Its B level against A level. A level wins.

 

Vitali's best two opponents were Byrd and Lewis. His power you keep harping on about couldn't put a dent in those two. One a non-heavy and the other known for being chinny.
Everybody knows Vitali wasn't a huge puncher . And its very obvious from film that he was much more open and much easier to hit than Bowe was. And thats against much lesser opposition than what Bowe faced.

 

Hardest chins in boxing history ??

You obviously know nothing at all about boxing and its history.

 

Alas, Dino, you fail yet again at trying to tear down the Klitschkos.

Your problem is that you don't know where to stop.

You make a few reasonable points, but then follow it up with the above twaddle which shows that you DKSAB after all. A guy that's never been floored in his career doesn't have a good chin? You're a clown, a joke, and a monomaniac.

 

Go ahead and point out any falsehoods because i base my posts off reality.

By your rationale guys who hit the canvas don't have good chins. Eubank went up to Cruiser weight and took flush blows off Thompson without ever going down. That same Thompson blew David Haye outta there.
A bonafide iron chin .. But how can it be when feather fisted Calzaghe floored him hard with just one punch?

Iron chinner Benn was down and out many time in his career. Does Sven Ottke have a better chin than Benn and Eubank because he as never dropped in all his career ?
I guarantee you he'd have first round KO losses if he fought those guys , or the guys those guys faced.

Vitali never being dropped is just a blind stat with no meaning. Show it to me??
Ive seen his whole career and he never shipped the kind punishment for anybody to lay claim to his chin being the best in boxing history.

He took a few punches off an end of career Lewis and fell apart. Thats what his chin legacy is based off. There is nothing else.
And did he keep his composure in that dog fight against Lewis?
No , he buckled and held on for deal life. He was even staggered off a jab.

Go watch Hagler walk through savage bombs off Mugabi/Hearns like they were nothing.

Watch light weight Duran go up to Middle weight and take Barkleys best shots flush on the chin for 12 round and WIN.

To put Vitali's name along side these guys is some sort of sick joke and proves you know chit about the sport.

 

jorge louis gonzales would give vitali more problems than vitali would give bowe.

 

So Dino likes guys that ship an endless barrage of blows and sometimes get up to win?

I like guys that have an excellent defence like Vitali Klitschko, that are exceptionally hard to land on and then, even when they are landed on, are never dropped. Lewis hit Vitali with his Sunday punch and never dropped him. Sanders countered Vitali flush coming in, and never dropped him. That's good enough for me.

Golota dropped Bowe with every solid shot to the head that he landed. If that crazy Pole could have kept his head together he would have turned Bowe's brains to milkshake by the end of the fight. No wonder Bowe dropped a log in his shorts when he had to face Lewis. There's no comparison between Bowe's and Vitali's chins.

 

Vitali had very poor defence and if you knew what you were looking at , you'd see it. Vitali proved he could only beat one type of boxer- small, C-level plodders , who could only walk slowly in straight lines. That's all he ever beat and that's all he was ever willing to face after losing in his only two efforts against higher level guys.
Vitali's record is exactly what Wilder's is right now . That is an iron clad fact.
What? , Wilder never beat any elite levelers? Neither did Vitali. Actually Wilder beat Stiverne 12-0 after Vitali dropped his belt rather than fight him.
He beat and stopped Vits best win earlier with just one arm. Vits other best win - Peters - was toy'd with and put to sleep by Hilienus in much better and easier fashion.
Exceptional defence ???

Did you see the state of his face after he fought Kingpin Johnson? It was busted up from eating jabs all night long.. Kingpin Johnson.
He was sent prancing all over the ring by pitter pater jabs and body shots by Chris Byrd. Chisora beat his body like a drum as well.

Its understandable that would be good enough for somebody who has no knowledge of any fights outside of the Klitchko brothers.
Lewis hit Ziko Merovic with that punch over and over for 12 rounds. The uppercuts that he ripped Mercer with were double the impact of the once he hit Vitali with since Mercer was a lot smaller and the punch travelled less. Mike Tyson's ghost took 3 of them in succession during the first round.
Vitali took a single uppercut and reacted far worse than all those guys. His legs went and he clung on for dear life. There was no fight left in him, thats why Lewis was able to mangle him up worse and worse.
Let me go one step further , Holyfield got ripped with that same uppercut more time than Vitali and didn't even take a back step. Go watch the first few rounds of the rematch and see for yourself , cos its clear you never saw any of these fights in your life.
One Bowe uppercut removed Holyfield completely out of his senses . Imagine what a Bowe uppercut would do to Vitali
And he would deliver it , because Bowe was vastly superior to the 40% version of Lewis Vitali fought.

And this quote here proves your knowledge of Bowe/Golota only stems from forum lore and not from actually watching the fight. Out of two fights Golota only dropped Bowe twice with punches to the head. He couldn't put a dent in him , thats why he desperately combo'd his nuts , it was the only way he could keep him off him.
It doesn't take a high level of intelligence to understand why Golota kept going low, but with you , that seems to be the case.

A washed up Bowe crushed Golota's jaw , ripped open his face to the point you could see his teeth through his check before shattering his mental state , forcing him to quit in both fights. When they going got tough , Golota crumbled.
Who else has a history of quitting? They didn't call him Quitali for nothing. Even against Chisora he was on the verge of tapping out again.
92 Bowe under Futch was on a different level to the no desire Golota version. He'd be dismantled one sided based off his 6 round brutal loss to a very poor version of Lewis. If he couldn't beat that Lewis , how the hell does he beat Bowe.
The match would be as one sided as this debate between me and you..

 

I can't see anything a washed up Lewis did against Vitali, that Bowe couldn't easily replicate.

Bowe in a war.

 

if i recall it was old retiring lewis jab that tore down prime best ever vitali before halftime oranges. no need for dino to do it too.

 

Vitali had heavy hands he was not a one punch KO guy like Vlad but his jab, size, movement,durability usually wore down his opponents and he stopped some very good fighters with good chins. You point out 2 fights that he was ahead in and that were stopped by injuries and these fights were before he primed. It would be like bringing up the McCall fight with Lewis. Vitali had the chin that nullified and the power and stamina to win by attrition